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Old May 27th 05, 01:38 AM
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Skywise wrote:
Other reports have indicated that 121.5 MHz was in use by an
unidentified ELT signal at the time communications were attempted. Snipola


OK. That explains that. My question then is wouldn't the
Blackhawk crew have noticed the ELT signal on their radios?

I mean, if I tun my receiver to 121.5 and there's an ELT on
it, won't I know so?



I don't see how you could miss it. It is a very distinctive howl.




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Old May 27th 05, 03:32 AM
John T
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"Skywise" wrote in message


I mean, if I tun my receiver to 121.5 and there's an ELT on
it, won't I know so?

Sorry if it's an obvious question...I'm still just an
armchair pilot.


Keep up.

The Blackhawk crew asked the Cessna to tune to a second frequency after
noticing the issue on 121.5. Shaeffer, the Cessna pilot, claims an
inability to talk to them on that frequency until he'd turned 90 degrees.

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Old May 27th 05, 03:48 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 22:35:40 -0000, Skywise
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Larry Dighera wrote in
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Snipola
Other reports have indicated that 121.5 MHz was in use by an
unidentified ELT signal at the time communications were attempted.

Snipola

OK. That explains that. My question then is wouldn't the
Blackhawk crew have noticed the ELT signal on their radios?


I can't speak for the Blackhawk crew, but one would expect so.

I mean, if I tun my receiver to 121.5 and there's an ELT on
it, won't I know so?


If the ELT signal were strong enough to interfere with communications
between two aircraft in formation flight, I would think it could be
heard by both of them.

Sorry if it's an obvious question...I'm still just an
armchair pilot.


No need to apologize.

The point is, the governments shoot-down policy for intruding aircraft
relies to a great extent on two way radio communications. At least it
seems to have in this case. To base a lethal policy on an unreliable
method of communications is half-baked at best, and displays the
government's lack of concern for the welfare of its citizens at worst.


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Old May 26th 05, 04:44 PM
George Patterson
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Skywise wrote:

I'm sorry, but how can a frequency be "unavailable in that patch
of airspace"?!?! If the transmitter and the receiver can tune to
the frequency, it's available unless it's already in use or being
jammed.


It was being jammed by an ELT.

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Old May 26th 05, 06:32 PM
Kev
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Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down,
and they were literally seconds away from doing
so..


I suspect they felt that they had to say this.

I also would guess that they had no real intention of shooting it down,
especially after almost screwing up with the Kentucky governor's plane,
and because it was just a Cessna 150.

Imagine the political fallout if they shot down any innocent plane
whatsoever, especially if that caused more injuries on the ground.
After that, it would be even more difficult to do anything against a
non-obvious threat.

 




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