Tried to Call it "Runway 7" today...

I do that in newsgroups.

(... or do I?)

we were making our way up the cost and Corpus
Christi calls with "30L, verify straight and level at 3000 feet."

Yep, without even thinking I keyed the mike and replied "30L Roger
Roger Roger"

Shouldn't it have been "affirmative, affirmative, affirmative, 30L" or
"Wilco, Wilco, Wilco, 30L"?

On 20 Oct 2005 06:44:01 -0700, "150flivver"
wrote:

we were making our way up the cost and Corpus
Christi calls with "30L, verify straight and level at 3000 feet."

Yep, without even thinking I keyed the mike and replied "30L Roger
Roger Roger"

Shouldn't it have been "affirmative, affirmative, affirmative, 30L" or
"Wilco, Wilco, Wilco, 30L"?

Well it definitely shouldn't have been "Wilco" since I wasn't telling
him I "Will comply" with anything!

Yes, my typical response would have been "Affirmative, 30L" or more
likely "Affirmative, 30L straight and level at 3000"

But I had been playing in Mexico for too long, and for some reason
they used "Roger" a lot. And they pronounced it more like "Royer",
except there was a slightly different sound than a Y in there. It
just wasn't a G like we would say it. So, when in Rome...

And when I got back, I just did it without thinking that one time.
"Royer, royer, royer" said with a very jovial voice. I'm sure the
Corpus Christi controller thought we had been smoking or drinking
something.

In fact, just before I departed his airspace he asked me where 30L was
based. He wanted to know specifically which airport. I told him, but
never asked why he wanted to know, and I wasn't met by anyone when I
got home. Who knows what that was for?


Bill Strahan
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Bill wrote:
In fact, just before I departed his airspace he
asked me where 30L was based. He wanted
to know specifically which airport. I told him,
but never asked why he wanted to know, and
I wasn't met by anyone when I got home. Who
knows what that was for?

I wish they'd explain questions like that. Recently, when I returned to
my home airport after being gone for about 1.5 hrs, Ground control asked
us what time we had taxied out earlier that morning. Never explained why
either. ??

On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:17:16 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
gTE5f.497537$xm3.148457@attbi_s21::

Dang, you wouldn't think such a minor thing would be so hard to change, but
after saying it one way 5.6 zillion-billion times, I just couldn't seem to
get the words out straight!

After flying a Piper for years, see what happens when you find
yourself flying a Cessna for the first time.

You mean, besides finally feeling like a real man?

You mean, besides finally feeling like a real man?

Phhhht.

I experienced the dainty "C" line of high-wing aircraft as a young
pilot, and decided that manly low-wings were the only way to go...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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After all the talk about not using "leading zeros" when making radio calls
referring to runways, I tried my darndest to omit those offending zeros
today.

To my surprise and dismay, my mouth has apparently developed an
"autopilot" mode that seemed to prohibit even the simplest changes to my
rote radio procedures. It literally took me FOUR TRIES to be able to
refer to our Runway 7 as "Runway SEVEN" -- not "Runway ZERO SEVEN."



Don't let some dyslexic bureaucrat's influence on the misguided youth in
this ng destroy all your years of *proper* usage. :-)

Avoiding the leading zero on a direction-based entity is unnatural and only
leads to confusion. FAA's own NACO chart-selection web site INCLUDES the
leading zero in the INDEX, when selecting your IAP plate, but then the
actual plate has the runway WITHOUT the leading zero.

When our dyslexic bureaucrat read the FAA's description: "Runways are
normally numbered in relation to their magnetic direction rounded off to the
nearest 10 degrees", he just assumed that 10 divided by 10 is "1"; seventy
divided by 10 was "7" (quite correctly, I suppose). So that's what he went
out and painted.

For some of the rest of us, "magnetic direction" implied, quite
understandably "magnetic direction as in:
magnetic-direction-as-used-for-navigation".

Zero-seven-zero divided by ten is still zero-seven, whether the zero is
painted there or not.