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Old January 3rd 06, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I have 0 sympathy for either of these guys. Since when is a GPS required
for VFR navigation? What happened to learning how to read a map and looking
out the window? Makes you really question a system where you get your
pilots license and you are good to go for life. Maybe there should be some
periodic retest to make sure people still have the skills they need or have
learned about new stuff that didn't exist when they first got their license.


Funny. I though that's what a biennial was all about?
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Old January 3rd 06, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

Funny. I though that's what a biennial was all about?


What isn't funny, is how many people are flying that have not had a biennial
in decades.
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Old January 4th 06, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What isn't funny, is how many people are flying that have not had a biennial
in decades.


I fly all the time. Sometimes I use an airplane.
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In article ,
"Morgans" wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote

Funny. I though that's what a biennial was all about?


What isn't funny, is how many people are flying that have not had a biennial
in decades.


Only fly during the odd numbered years and you never need a BFR :-)
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Old January 4th 06, 12:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The pilot didn't have BFR, or the BFR system isn't working.

Mike Schumann

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have 0 sympathy for either of these guys. Since when is a GPS required
for VFR navigation? What happened to learning how to read a map and
looking
out the window? Makes you really question a system where you get your
pilots license and you are good to go for life. Maybe there should be
some
periodic retest to make sure people still have the skills they need or
have
learned about new stuff that didn't exist when they first got their
license.


Funny. I though that's what a biennial was all about?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old January 3rd 06, 04:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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I have 0 sympathy for either of these guys. Since when is a GPS required
for VFR navigation? What happened to learning how to read a map and
looking out the window?


You have zero sympathy for the student-pilot passenger who hadn't even begun
his cross-country flight-training yet? What sort of navigational
responsibility do you expect such a passenger to bear? (The FAA, of course,
found him to be blameless.)

--Gary


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Old January 4th 06, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Obviously the pilot is the one responsible. But you would think that a
stundent pilot with 30 hours, particularly one who is going along to get
cross country experience would have a little better grasp of map reading and
basic navigation.

Mike Schumann

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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"Mike Schumann" wrote in message
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I have 0 sympathy for either of these guys. Since when is a GPS required
for VFR navigation? What happened to learning how to read a map and
looking out the window?


You have zero sympathy for the student-pilot passenger who hadn't even
begun his cross-country flight-training yet? What sort of navigational
responsibility do you expect such a passenger to bear? (The FAA, of
course, found him to be blameless.)

--Gary




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Old January 4th 06, 01:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:54:30 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
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Obviously the pilot is the one responsible.


Actually, I would place some culpability on the FBO (presumably) that
rented the PIC the aircraft. However, that in no way diminishes the
multiple transgressions of the PIC.
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Old January 4th 06, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Actually, I would place some culpability on the FBO (presumably) that
rented the PIC the aircraft.


Why?

How much nanny do you want in life?

Jose
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Old January 4th 06, 01:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:54:30 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
wrote in
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Obviously the pilot is the one responsible.


Actually, I would place some culpability on the FBO (presumably) that
rented the PIC the aircraft. However, that in no way diminishes the
multiple transgressions of the PIC.



Sheaffer owned a share in the C-150, no mention of an FBO....
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