Shelds up!

guynoir wrote:

Finally, broadcasting your real email address on usenet is an open
invitation for spam. So change your email address now and use a phony
or coded email address like I and many others do. I consider using
Microsoft Outlook an open invitation for viruses, too, but that opinion
was formed several years ago and I'm sure they've improved their
security since then.

I haven't gotten ANY spam in the last two years, and I haven't had a
computer virus ever in the last ten years that I've been online.


Well, I hate sounding like a rube here, guy,
but for the general betterment of all mankind,
I'll bite...

I can mangle my address. Make it Xcavelamb@somesuch.
But then it's a non working address, unless corrected.
Confuses the hell outta my Mom. (?)

YOURS, on the other hand, seems to work properly.
At least it didn't bounce as returned mail.

So, guy, what's the trick?

How do you pull that rabbit out of that hat?


Richard?

First, go to:
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

John, for more security information go to
www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

There are program transcripts and audio downloads for 24 programs.
You will learn things that you have been previously taught that are
wrong.

Mail washer doesn't let POP 3 mail on to your machine while to scan and
check it out. You can even read it with out loading on your machine.


"Richard Lamb" wrote in message
ink.net...
Mike Gaskins wrote:

One of my main job responsibilities is admining our email system at
work, and I can tell you truthfully that auto-challenge systems (which
you seem to imply you're using) are not a good thing to put into place.
At best, you're going to tick off a lot of people who truly want to
communicate with you; done on an organization wide basis it can even
land a company's email server on a blacklist (ie, people who check the
RBL server will refuse to deliver messages sent by you).

If you want to drop the spam without resorting to auto-challenge
systems, you would do well to look into SpamAssasssin (it's free).
I've got it checking our incoming mail (along with my home mail
accounts). It uses a multi-tiered approach (blacklisting, RBL's,
content rules, bayesian analysis, online tests w/ DCC & Razor) that
does a LOT to help block it. I've also got my Postfix MTA set to use
greylisting. This combined with a freeware virus scanner has
eliminated over 99% of our incoming spam, and it's literally been
months since I got a spam message at home.

Try it out. Mike Gaskins


Thanks Mike, I'll check into it.

With POP3 service the mail comes right to your computer.
Once there, it is difficult to deal with - without "opening" it.

This might be the answer...


Richard

Richard Lamb wrote:
guynoir wrote:

Finally, broadcasting your real email address on usenet is an open
invitation for spam. So change your email address now and use a phony
or coded email address like I and many others do. I consider using
Microsoft Outlook an open invitation for viruses, too, but that
opinion was formed several years ago and I'm sure they've improved
their security since then.

I haven't gotten ANY spam in the last two years, and I haven't had a
computer virus ever in the last ten years that I've been online.


Well, I hate sounding like a rube here, guy,
but for the general betterment of all mankind,
I'll bite...

I can mangle my address. Make it Xcavelamb@somesuch.
But then it's a non working address, unless corrected.
Confuses the hell outta my Mom. (?)

YOURS, on the other hand, seems to work properly.
At least it didn't bounce as returned mail.

So, guy, what's the trick?

How do you pull that rabbit out of that hat?


Richard?

Richard,

You are broadcasting your email address across the internet for any
spambot to collect. Usenet is the most fertile ground for spambots to
find unguarded email addresses like yours. If your email address is
listed on somebody's web page, that's another resource for a spambot to
harvest.

Look at how Orval Fairbairn and Richard Riley cypher their email
addressses. Theirs are done correctly. I'm sorry that my email address
_seems_ to work properly for you. That's because my cyphered email
address was done incorrectly (I've changed it). Read why he

http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/avoidance.html#NOT

I'm not an internet security expert. All I know is: I haven't had any
spam since I started cyphering my email address. I don't do anything
else to filter out spam. Anybody with a high enough IQ can send me an
email and I will get it.

When I send personal emails, I don't cypher my email address, and my
email program knows automatically whether to use the cyphered or
uncyphered version.



--
John Kimmel


Sometimes Pascal seemed to have had a bandage over his eyes.

guynoir wrote:

Richard Lamb wrote:

guynoir wrote:


Richard,

You are broadcasting your email address across the internet for any
spambot to collect. Usenet is the most fertile ground for spambots to
find unguarded email addresses like yours. If your email address is
listed on somebody's web page, that's another resource for a spambot to
harvest.

Look at how Orval Fairbairn and Richard Riley cypher their email
addressses. Theirs are done correctly. I'm sorry that my email address
_seems_ to work properly for you. That's because my cyphered email
address was done incorrectly (I've changed it). Read why he

http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/avoidance.html#NOT

I'm not an internet security expert. All I know is: I haven't had any
spam since I started cyphering my email address. I don't do anything
else to filter out spam. Anybody with a high enough IQ can send me an
email and I will get it.

When I send personal emails, I don't cypher my email address, and my
email program knows automatically whether to use the cyphered or
uncyphered version.



Let's see if this is better?

Xearthlink does not seem to exist (per instructions)


Richard

Richard Lamb wrote:

Let's see if this is better?

Xearthlink does not seem to exist (per instructions)


Richard


but any embedded spaces seem to cause smtp to burp ???

Richard Lamb wrote:
Richard Lamb wrote:

Let's see if this is better?

Xearthlink does not seem to exist (per instructions)


Richard


but any embedded spaces seem to cause smtp to burp ???

Richard,

Keep in mind that it won't do you any good to cypher an email address at
which you are already getting spam. That email address is already
compromised.

I occasionally get commercial email from companies to whom I've given my
email address as part of an order, or to register for something. This
is not spam because it isn't "unsolicited", and they take me off their
mailing list if I ask them to.

Eventually, I expect my current email addresses to become compromised,
and I'll have to change them.

You can make it easier for people to email you by writing instructions
into your sig line.

--
J Kimmel

www.metalinnovations.com

"Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum." - When you have
their full attention in your grip, their hearts and minds will follow.

JKimmel wrote:

Keep in mind that it won't do you any good to cypher an email address at
which you are already getting spam. That email address is already
compromised.

I occasionally get commercial email from companies to whom I've given my
email address as part of an order, or to register for something. This
is not spam because it isn't "unsolicited", and they take me off their
mailing list if I ask them to.

Eventually, I expect my current email addresses to become compromised,
and I'll have to change them.

You can make it easier for people to email you by writing instructions
into your sig line.


Thanks, J.


Something like ...

Richard

to reply - remove the X ?

probably need to put it in the sig file...


Man! Cyber space is so scary I nearly downloaded in my pants!