Instruement checkride...for real this time (long)

I'm sensing a severe lack of trust here... hmm... now why could that be?

Perhaps you know us too well.

Speaking of beer, have one on me, you deserve a few. Congrats again.

Jim

"Jack Allison" wrote in message
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Jim Burns wrote:
Congrats!!!
Ok, now you deserve a few days in Vegas!!

Gee, and it just so happens that a couple of frozen Iowa/Wisconsin
families will be thawing out in Vegas in March...go figure! :-)

Should we start an OSH food/party fund where everyone sends you/Jay say,
maybe $5 and you guys see what you can do at the casinos? Nah...you guys
would just buy some beer and drink it all...bad idea. :-)

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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I'm sensing a severe lack of trust here... hmm... now why could that be?

Perhaps you know us too well.

Speaking of beer, have one on me, you deserve a few. Congrats again.

Ditto and roger to all that! Way to go, Jack!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm sensing a severe lack of trust here... hmm... now why could that be?

Perhaps you know us too well.

Speaking of beer, have one on me, you deserve a few. Congrats again.


Ditto and roger to all that! Way to go, Jack!
I'll collect at Oshkosh this year. :-)


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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("Jack Allison" wrote)
Now, how come spell check doesn't handle the subject line? Where's the
"recall" button? Argh...fried brain on floor...


COENGRATULATIONS Jack!! :-)


Paul

("Jack Allison" wrote)
I'll collect at Oshkosh this year. :-)


Ok.

PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
[didn't have the heart to strip this portion. g]

Nice write up.


Paul
If I make it out to Vegas and you find me betting on spring training split
squad baseball games - call the Gambling Help Hotline. Thanks.

....stupid Seahawks!!

Congrats Jack! And, nice write-up.

I can completely relate to the lack of sleep, the night before, and
waking up before the alarm! I purchased the King check-ride video
(mainly because I knew I could get a refund, if I busted :-), and
watched it over and over again the two days prior to ride, and 3 or 4
times the night before. Although annoying at times, and riddled with
fopahs, it worked well at getting the routine of a standard check-ride
into my head.

The rating, as you said, a lot of work, and much more difficult than
the PPL, but in hind-sight not really that bad (for anybody considering
going after it). It is definitely an accomplishment to be proud of!
The ability to fly the plane precisely, and better handle an emergency
is much worth the price of admission.

Way to go!!!

Best Regards,
Todd

Great story...
Interestingly, one of the locals on my field just took and flunked his
IFR check ride last week... He says the the oral and the ride actually
went like clockwork... He felt confident and he felt that it showed in
his handling of the airplane...
The examiner told him to finish the ILS they were currently shooting,
by declaring the miss at the DH and fly the missed approach to the
holding fix called out on the plate, fly it once around then depart to
a VOR-A approach back to our field and that would be it... So thinking
ahead, as soon as he hits the DH for the ILS approach he calls the
missed approach and begins flying the profile, he quickly dials in the
VOR-A approach on the Garmin 430 NAV-COM and presets the OBS for the
proper radial (125) to be set up for the VOR-A as soon as he departs
the hold, then he uses the 430 moving map to navigate to the holding
fix... As soon as he turned inbound to the holding fix the examiner
told him he was busted for failing to use the OBS.. Period... End of
discussion... Ride over...
So, today he was to refly the missed approach to the holding fix and
then fly the VOR-A to complete the ride... I don't see his choice of
using the map as a disqualifying error... I would have told the
candidate that he needed to depart the hold, reacquire it using the OBS
and demonstrate proficiency... The DE saw it otherwise...

denny

Interesting Denny. One thing I remember my CFII saying was that when
flying the VOR approach, plan to use the VOR and not the GPS. His take
was that it showed the DE I could do a VOR approach *without* the GPS.
Sure, I'd probably use the overlay whenever possible in actual
conditions (and do practice approach work without it)...anyway, that was
his idea.

As for MarkH's point, IIRC, if you can identify the holding fix with the
GPS, you can legally use the GPS. As I understand, it comes down to the
fact that if it's in the GPS database, you can use it. I'd pull out my
AIM but, gee, I just put it back on the shelf and sort of don't feel
like looking at it for a bit...go figure. :-)

As for the guy that busted, sounds like the DE could have been more
clear as to what he wanted to see vs. busting him.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:13:30 -0800, Jack Allison wrote:

As for MarkH's point, IIRC, if you can identify the holding fix with the
GPS, you can legally use the GPS. As I understand, it comes down to the
fact that if it's in the GPS database, you can use it.

For you to use the GPS approach in the Garmin 430, the approach must be
labeled GPS on the approach you select. For example, I select the VOR
alpha at my airport (KMBO), the approach has gps next to it.

This means I can use the GPS mode for the approach or use the OBS for the
approach.

Personally, love the map overlay. If you cannot keep the lil plane on the
purple line, you have no business flying IMC or you are in conditions
beyond your capabilities.

I am so glad I got my IFR ticket b4 getting my 430 installed. Makes me
fully appreciate the ease of situational awareness with the 430.

Allen