Blue Angels Question(s)

My mistake, Redgrave played Barnes Wallis, not Jagger.


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| Another Dean Jagger film, The Dam Busters.
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| Paul Brickhill wrote the story. I think Guy Gibson wrote
an earlier book
| before he was KIA in 44. Just 2 years after Brickhill's
book on the Busters
| he wrote the bio of one of my closest friends from the old
Fellowship,
| Douglas Bader.
| I don't believe Jagger was in the DB movie though. I could
be mistaken, but
| I don't remember him as being in the cast.
| Dudley
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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My mistake, Redgrave played Barnes Wallis, not Jagger.

Wallace was completely broken up by the loss of lives on the raid. He was
actually a very plain and simple man who did his engineering thing and
apparently never really thought about the possible cost in lives.
Bader told me it hit him very hard and he never really got over it.
Dudley

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Speaking of Dean Jagger, anybody see X, The Unknown?

A mud monster in Kilts? I'll wait for the Garfield sequel :-)))
Dudley

I think that came through pretty well in the movie. Did you
see the History Channel recently about his earthquake bombs?


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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| My mistake, Redgrave played Barnes Wallis, not Jagger.
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| Wallace was completely broken up by the loss of lives on
the raid. He was
| actually a very plain and simple man who did his
engineering thing and
| apparently never really thought about the possible cost in
lives.
| Bader told me it hit him very hard and he never really got
over it.
| Dudley
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"three-eight-hotel" wrote in message
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Take a look at the second picture, which prompted one of my questions.
I got completely lucky on the timing of the picture, but I was amazed
at how close the planes appear to be [...]

The airplanes are very close.

That said, some optical illusions help with the drama. At a distance,
everything essentially looks 2D. A camera's zoom lens emphasizes this.
Your eye, or the camera's, is not able to differentiate between two objects
18 inches apart versus 18 feet apart versus (at far enough away, say a half
mile or so) 180 feet, as long as those distances are along your line of
sight (obviously you can do better with lateral distances). There's just no
depth perception, and not enough perspective to tell the difference.

This is especially a significant effect for the head-on fly-bys. In
formation, the airplanes really are that close, but when flying head-on they
don't need to be all that close for the viewer to still perceive them as
being very close.

Pete

Radioactive slime, sort of like the Blob but more like
oatmeal. Not really a bad movie, but a waste of good
actors.


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| Speaking of Dean Jagger, anybody see X, The Unknown?
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| A mud monster in Kilts? I'll wait for the Garfield sequel
:-)))
| Dudley
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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I think that came through pretty well in the movie. Did you
see the History Channel recently about his earthquake bombs?

No. Been on vacation, but most anything the HC does is solid work.
D

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Radioactive slime, sort of like the Blob but more like
oatmeal. Not really a bad movie, but a waste of good
actors.

I can just see myself pitching this one to my wife at Blockbusters!
"Yo Hon....let's get this one! It's got everything.........radioactive
slime.........a blob thing...........and something that looks like
oatmeal!................"
"Hon.......................hon.................... ....did anyone see my wife
leave?"

:-))
Dudley

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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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LOL!!! :-)
Dammit Paul, I always suspected there was a right way to spell that damn
word. Just never bothered to look it up!! :-)))
Come to think of it, Jagger riding in on a Segway just might have spoiled
the mood a bit!!!
D

Mick Jagger on a Segway might be more believable!

Hi Orville;
Dammit, I missed you again. Just got back this week from Ormond Beach.
Completely forgot about Spruce Creek would you believe it??

I think Mick's tied up doing something else right now. Last I heard, he was
renting himself out as a pop up face to help people get rid of the hiccups
:-))
Dudley

Well, Dudley, make sure that you are around here for a Saturday fly-out
to breakfast. You can fly with me or one of the other characters here.

On 3/23/06 12:26 PM, in article
et, "Dudley Henriques"
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Yes, they do "bump" once in a while in the formation. There have been
numerous sheet metal "benders" through the years. Naturally, these are
wingtip hits laterally rather than nose hits :-) I remember one of these
occasions quite vividly during the 73 season.
The flow patterns in the diamond are unique to close proximity similar
aircraft. I say similar because in a close Diamond of dis-similar aircraft,
the flow patterns would not be as predictable.
Tip vortices on the left and right wing positions in close tend to cause a
roll away from the opposite aircraft and have to be countered. You can
really feel this as you get in close.
Lead and the slot position have their trim affected as the slot sticks his
nose in where it should be. Lead can actually "feel" the slot in position
and knows by his trim change if the slot slides out too far. The trim change
is nose down for the lead and nose up for the slot, again caused by the flow
patterns.
It's not nearly as smooth in the Diamond as it looks to you from the ground.
There is a lot of movement going on in the formation, especially through
rough air. It takes intense concentration to hold position.
On the cross over question. They use pre-selected hack and checkpoints
briefed by photo recon before the show as well as radio calls when visual.
Timing on the high show bomb burst is a hack call down from lead to the
split S pull on his cadence. There is a visual call by each opposing
aircraft (lead/slot) (left/right wings) and adjustments made during the
downside recovery for altitude and airspeed to seek co-cross at show center.
Naturally, both sides of the runway are used. It saves a hell of a lot of
sheet metal work after the show :-)
Hope this helps a bit.
Dudley Henriques


My question for a long time has been, how do they keep their speed
synchronized so well so they can maintain such tight formations? It seems to
me that small variations would have to creep into their engines, requiring
micro adjustments to the throttle settings in flight. Do they have that
available, or are the engines so well maintained that X% of thrust on Bird1
is _exactly_ the same as every other?
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