Wingy is all grown up!

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:00:45 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:21:05 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:

On 1 Apr 2006 07:05:09 -0800, "Richard Riley" wrote:

Muzzleloader doesn't actually cure any physical ailments.

I disagree. In Bob Urban's case, it cured "life". :-)

is the old bugger no longer with us???

Bob's back among the living. He imbibed a *bit* too much of it at the '98
Pinkneyville and spent most of one day deceased on a cot. Here's a pictu

http://www.ousterhout.net/fly-in/pv-98/516b012.jpg

Ron Wanttaja

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:41:57 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:00:45 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:21:05 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:

On 1 Apr 2006 07:05:09 -0800, "Richard Riley" wrote:

Muzzleloader doesn't actually cure any physical ailments.

I disagree. In Bob Urban's case, it cured "life". :-)

is the old bugger no longer with us???

Bob's back among the living. He imbibed a *bit* too much of it at the '98
Pinkneyville and spent most of one day deceased on a cot. Here's a pictu

http://www.ousterhout.net/fly-in/pv-98/516b012.jpg

Ron Wanttaja

what! no daffodil !

(like a rectal thermometer only prettier :-) )

btw ron the stealth pilot's tailwind page is being moved to another
isp so your link will be broken at present. I'll give you an update
when I get the new one sorted.
Stealth Pilot

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:00:45 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:21:05 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote:

On 1 Apr 2006 07:05:09 -0800, "Richard Riley" wrote:

Muzzleloader doesn't actually cure any physical ailments.
I disagree. In Bob Urban's case, it cured "life". :-)
is the old bugger no longer with us???

Bob's back among the living. He imbibed a *bit* too much of it at the '98
Pinkneyville and spent most of one day deceased on a cot. Here's a pictu

http://www.ousterhout.net/fly-in/pv-98/516b012.jpg

Ron Wanttaja


You guys are cruel, I love it

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

For those that think housing prices are going to continue to
increase...

Northern Virginia Available Homes Inventory

March 1, 2005(left number) April 2, 2006 (right number)
Alexandria City 121 846
Arlington County 159 807
Fairfax City 26 90
Fairfax County 800 5,764
Falls Church City 6 46
Loudoun County 708 3,369
Manassas City 34 269
Manassas Park 18 125
Prince Will. Cty 673 3,708

Source: Virginiamls.com



A couple of years ago I bought a house. Conforming loan, 30% down, 15
year fixed. I got it at 4.625%. Or, i could have gone through the
company Wingie was working for and paid 6.5%. Needless to say, I
didn't use Wingie as my mortgage broker.

Here's what I don't understand. Wingie is promising his investors 12%.
Lenders are climbing over each other to re-fi stuff in the mid 6%
range. If I want to borrow money against real estate, under the
conditions Wingie has on his website (70% loan to value, no rural, no
construction loans, no rehab, etc) why would I go to him and pay 12%+?

I own a couple here in Sterling and Manassas and my sisters also own a
few in Asburn. We're stuck with a few ourselves and one is even
upside-down. Woes... me....

The Monk


Richard Riley wrote:
For those that think housing prices are going to continue to
increase...

Northern Virginia Available Homes Inventory

March 1, 2005(left number) April 2, 2006 (right number)
Alexandria City 121 846
Arlington County 159 807
Fairfax City 26 90
Fairfax County 800 5,764
Falls Church City 6 46
Loudoun County 708 3,369
Manassas City 34 269
Manassas Park 18 125
Prince Will. Cty 673 3,708

Source: Virginiamls.com



A couple of years ago I bought a house. Conforming loan, 30% down, 15
year fixed. I got it at 4.625%. Or, i could have gone through the
company Wingie was working for and paid 6.5%. Needless to say, I
didn't use Wingie as my mortgage broker.

Here's what I don't understand. Wingie is promising his investors 12%.
Lenders are climbing over each other to re-fi stuff in the mid 6%
range. If I want to borrow money against real estate, under the
conditions Wingie has on his website (70% loan to value, no rural, no
construction loans, no rehab, etc) why would I go to him and pay 12%+?

You would go to him because you're working as a dealer, valet,
dancer/stripper, etc and 75% of your income is in tips which you don't
100% report to the IRS. So, your income tax return "says" you only make
$25,000 a year and you want to buy a $250,000 house. No bank will loan
you that much money given your reported income.

But, Wingy will at around 14% to 15%.... you pay him for a couple years
and now have a record of timely payments to show a banks financial
officer. You've shown you can make the payments and the bank is now
happy to loan you the money you need to pay off Wingy's loan and get a
new loan at normal rates.

Wingy is laughing all the way to the bank since the worst thing you can
do to him is pay off his loan. If you default on the loan, he gets the
house for 70% of it's value. He'll have to pay roughly 10% of the value
in lawyer fees but it's still a win/win situation for Wingy.

Wingy is making his money from people that are cheating the government
so it's probably not so bad that he's "cheating" them with his loan
rates. They end up with a house and he ends up with the money. Las
Vegas was made for Wingy... lots of people trying to get rich off of
other poor souls/suckers... Definately a target rich environment for
anyone willing to take advantage of the situation.


John

Richard Riley wrote:


Here's what I don't understand. Wingie is promising his investors 12%.
Lenders are climbing over each other to re-fi stuff in the mid 6%
range. If I want to borrow money against real estate, under the
conditions Wingie has on his website (70% loan to value, no rural, no
construction loans, no rehab, etc) why would I go to him and pay 12%+?

Hi Ron

Muzzleloader doesn't actually cure any physical ailments.

I disagree. In Bob Urban's case, it cured "life". :-)


I was wondering why I hadn't seen any posts from Bob, are you being serious
when you suggest that Bob is dead, or does that grin after mean your joking.
If he really is dead I'm very sorry to hear that.
--
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Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
Printers Only


Ron Wanttaja

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 21:30:57 +0100, "Jonathan Lowe" wrote:

Hi Ron

Muzzleloader doesn't actually cure any physical ailments.

I disagree. In Bob Urban's case, it cured "life". :-)


I was wondering why I hadn't seen any posts from Bob, are you being serious
when you suggest that Bob is dead, or does that grin after mean your joking.

See my earlier post responding to Stealth's similar question. Bob overindulged
in the muzzleloader and spent most of one day at Pinkneyville simulating being
dead. He's better now.

Ron Wanttaja

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

I was wondering why I hadn't seen any posts from Bob, are you being serious
when you suggest that Bob is dead, or does that grin after mean your joking.

See my earlier post responding to Stealth's similar question. Bob overindulged
in the muzzleloader

re. Muzzleloader. Overindulgence = drinking ANY amount.

and spent most of one day at Pinkneyville simulating being
dead. He's better now.

I've seen Bob recently.

He may be alive but he stating that "he's better now" is an opinion not
supported by factual evidence.


Pinckneyville Fly-In FAQ: http://www.ousterhout.net/pjy-faq.html

- John Ousterhout -

, BobR says...

I would simply say...congratulations and well done. I would never
belittle anyone for succeeding provided they have done so honestly.


Your right Bob but I can't help but wonder what kind of person he is now.I
congratulate his success but I bet he's still a lousy person.Only now he's a
lousy person with money.IMHO

Chuck S

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I'm NOT surprised that Wingy would be doing well financially today
given how he hustled adult r.a.h. folks into footing his flight
instruction expenses while he was nothing but a loud mouth teen punk.

There's a sucker born every minute. Nobody understood
that more fully than young Jordan many years ago, IMO.


- Barnyard BOb -

The more people I meet, the more I love
my dog.... and George Carlin humor.