Rotax engines- LSA's hope, or curse?

" Considering that Lycoming and Continental have BILLIONS (TRILLIONS ?? )
of
hours flying, it's not surprising that they've killed more pilots. What's
also amusing is people that can't correlate data but shoot their mouth off
anyway.


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Oh yes... thank you, I see now, your data is much more precise than mine
(BILLIONS and TRILLIONS). Oh, hang on! you have no data either. Perhaps
you should correlate some data and then proceed to shoot your mouth off.

While we are on the subject, Morgans advised that two LSA aircraft with
Rotax engines crashed after engine failures and even though they were
probably the ultralight two stroke Rotax engines, he will never fly any LSA
at all and particularly with any Rotax engine including the ultra reliable
four stroke 912 or the unrelated Jabiru engine. There is simply no
comparison between a two stroke Rotax a four stroke Rotax and a Jabiru,
please, are we really that stupid to bundle all LSA aircraft and engines
into one basket because of two crashes?

By the way, a friend of mine was flying a Russian utility plane with an M14P
radial engine when it threw a rod/piston and the engine failed. As a
result, you will not find me flying an all metal GA aircraft, particularly
Cessna's and Pipers with piston engines made by Lycomming or Continental!

Bob.

"Bob O'Rilley" wrote in message
...

" Considering that Lycoming and Continental have BILLIONS (TRILLIONS ?? )
of
hours flying, it's not surprising that they've killed more pilots. What's
also amusing is people that can't correlate data but shoot their mouth
off anyway.


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Oh yes... thank you, I see now, your data is much more precise than mine
(BILLIONS and TRILLIONS). Oh, hang on! you have no data either. Perhaps
you should correlate some data and then proceed to shoot your mouth off.

Thanks you for aptly demonstrating you have no clue what you're blabbering
about.


While we are on the subject, Morgans advised that two LSA aircraft with
Rotax engines crashed after engine failures and even though they were
probably the ultralight two stroke Rotax engines, he will never fly any
LSA at all and particularly with any Rotax engine including the ultra
reliable four stroke 912 or the unrelated Jabiru engine. There is simply
no comparison between a two stroke Rotax a four stroke Rotax and a Jabiru,
please, are we really that stupid to bundle all LSA aircraft and engines
into one basket because of two crashes?

By the way, a friend of mine was flying a Russian utility plane with an
M14P radial engine when it threw a rod/piston and the engine failed. As a
result, you will not find me flying an all metal GA aircraft, particularly
Cessna's and Pipers with piston engines made by Lycomming or Continental!

Bob.

Bob = Clueless

"Bob O'Rilley" wrote

While we are on the subject, Morgans advised that two LSA aircraft with
Rotax engines crashed after engine failures and even though they were
probably the ultralight two stroke Rotax engines, he will never fly any
LSA at all and particularly with any Rotax engine including the ultra
reliable four stroke 912 or the unrelated Jabiru engine.

Thanks for proving that you are not only an idiot, but a lazy idiot.

If you had taken two minutes to do a little research, you would have found
that both crashes were 4 stroke Rotaxes.

The first rule of getting out of a hole, is to stop digging, and take your
foot out of your mouth, also.
--
Jim in NC

"Bob O'Rilley" wrote

You must be new in here, so I'll cut you a little slack.

No but I bet you would "set foot" inside an aircraft powered by a
Lycomming (broken crankshafts) or Continental (broken big end bolts)...

I have expressed my reservations about these engines in the past, also.
Statistically, the failures are relatively small.

These two engines have killed more pilots than Rotax or Jabiru.

Only because they have about a bazillion more engines flying! Golly, are
you that dense?

I find it amusing that some people just can't see the forest for the
trees. We had two pilots killed here in Australia in the past two weeks
both flying Lycommings, one failed after take off and the other on
approach to land. Investigations are continuing. Don't kid yourself, all
engines fail for a variety of reasons.

Yes, they do, and many times because of neglect, of one form or another. On
the other hand, the two LSA's that went down with their Rotax engines had
just been through the approval process, and have no doubt received much
attention and scruitiny. I certainly would not have expected a new
demonstrator to fail. But, where there are Rotax, .....

Now, if your anti-LSA, why don't you just say so.

In this use, I think you intended to use the spelling of "you're."

Once again, I will give you a break, but I am hardly anti GA.
--
Jim in NC

("Morgans" wrote)
Now, if your anti-LSA, why don't you just say so.

In this use, I think you intended to use the spelling of "you're."

Once again, I will give you a break, but I am hardly anti GA.


In this use, I think you intended to use the acronym "LSA". g


Montblack

"Montblack" wrote -

In this use, I think you intended to use the acronym "LSA". g

Yep, that is a possibility!

It would be better than the curse part, which is what I restrained from
doing. g
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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Only because they have about a bazillion more engines flying! Golly, are
you that dense?

Jesus! a BAZILLION! that's more than Matt's BILLIONS & TRILLIONS. Come on,
how old are you two guys? Eight? Does you parents know that your playing on
the internet?

Yes, they do, and many times because of neglect, of one form or another.
On the other hand, the two LSA's that went down with their Rotax engines
had just been through the approval process, and have no doubt received
much attention and scruitiny. I certainly would not have expected a new
demonstrator to fail. But, where there are Rotax, .....

Possible reasons for EFATO:-

1. Pilot forgot to turn on the fuel tap before take off.
2. Pilot forgot to put two stroke oil in the engine before take off.
3. Pilot forgot to put fuel in the tank before take off.
4. Pilot forgot to open cowl flaps and cooked the engine on take off.
5. Pilot forgot to turn on fuel pump before take off.

Any of the above could have happened and would have or may have caused an
engine failure on a new engine/aircraft.none are the fault of the engine.

In this use, I think you intended to use the spelling of "you're."

Thank you for YOUR correction of my typo. YOUR understanding of the English
language is impeccable. I've probably made a "BAZILLION" more typos in my
time.

Jim in NC
Bob in QLD

"Bob O'Rilley" wrote in message
...

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

Only because they have about a bazillion more engines flying! Golly, are
you that dense?

Jesus! a BAZILLION! that's more than Matt's BILLIONS & TRILLIONS. Come
on, how old are you two guys? Eight? Does you parents know that your
playing on the internet?

[PLONK]

Take your POS salespitch and SIWTSDS

("Bob O'Rilley" wrote)
Jesus! a BAZILLION! that's more than Matt's BILLIONS & TRILLIONS. Come
on, how old are you two guys? Eight? Does you parents know that your
playing on the internet?


Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by
saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the
President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"


Montblack

Bob O' Rilley wrote "



Jesus! a BAZILLION! that's more than Matt's BILLIONS & TRILLIONS. Come on,
how old are you two guys? Eight? Does you parents know that your playing on
the internet

.........

Owww. Thats gonna leave a mark...... G

Ben [ duckin] Haas.