Civil Aviation question

On Wed, 10 May 2006 16:43:38 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Not yet. But given the Patriot Act and other constitutional breaches
that reveal the direction the current administration is moving, it
shouldn't be to much longer ...


You make it sound like we had constitutional government prior to the current
administration or passage of the Patriot Act.


That was not my intent.

It is just the acceleration of unconstitutional acts perpetrated by
the current administration that makes it blatantly obvious.

Which unconstitutional acts?




"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 10 May 2006 16:43:38 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
| wrote in
| et::
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|
| "Larry Dighera" wrote in message
| .. .
|
| Not yet. But given the Patriot Act and other
constitutional breaches
| that reveal the direction the current administration is
moving, it
| shouldn't be to much longer ...
|
|
| You make it sound like we had constitutional government
prior to the current
| administration or passage of the Patriot Act.
|
|
| That was not my intent.
|
| It is just the acceleration of unconstitutional acts
perpetrated by
| the current administration that makes it blatantly
obvious.
|

On Wed, 10 May 2006 11:46:39 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Because corporations are not citizens, they should be permitted no
influence in government policy.


By this logic then organizations such as the AOPA, AARP, NRA and PTA should
have no influence?


While those groups certainly are corporations, they do represent their
members (hundreds of thousands of citizens) unlike Halliburton, Enron,
Exxon, Accuweather, Carlyle Group, ..., that exert more legislative
influence than the lawmakers' own constituents.

Big business only represents greed, and their unethical
(Abramoffesque) corruption of legislators must be stopped.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 May 2006 11:46:39 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
. ..

Because corporations are not citizens, they should be permitted no
influence in government policy.


By this logic then organizations such as the AOPA, AARP, NRA and PTA
should
have no influence?


While those groups certainly are corporations, they do represent their
members (hundreds of thousands of citizens) unlike Halliburton, Enron,
Exxon, Accuweather, Carlyle Group, ..., that exert more legislative
influence than the lawmakers' own constituents.

Big business only represents greed, and their unethical
(Abramoffesque) corruption of legislators must be stopped.



So it's just companies that you don't agree with for one reason or another
that shouldn't have influence? I'll make sure when the reform laws are
passed we legislate that you get the final OK on who gets free speech.

The problem isn't the companies doing the influencing and not really the
politicians that allow themselves to be to be influenced. The problem is the
voters that keep reelecting the politicians.

Everybody thinks Congress as a whole sucks but love their own rep and/or
senator.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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So it's just companies that you don't agree with for one reason or another
that shouldn't have influence? I'll make sure when the reform laws are
passed we legislate that you get the final OK on who gets free speech.

The problem isn't the companies doing the influencing and not really the
politicians that allow themselves to be to be influenced. The problem is
the voters that keep reelecting the politicians.

Everybody thinks Congress as a whole sucks but love their own rep and/or
senator.

Very well said...

Jay B

Congress is powerful because of the tax laws. Business
can't plan ahead more than a 2 years because every election
brings new tax policies. Alter the tax code, perhaps H.R.
25 The Fair Tax Act, that will remove a lot of the day to
day special loopholes for one segment and also do away with
the IRS. Then taxes will be based on what you spend, not
what you earn. If Congressmen have less power they won't be
bribed as often because they would not be able to give
special favors.


--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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|
| "Larry Dighera" wrote in message
| ...
| On Wed, 10 May 2006 11:46:39 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
| wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in
| ::
|
|
| "Larry Dighera" wrote in message
| . ..
|
| Because corporations are not citizens, they should be
permitted no
| influence in government policy.
|
|
| By this logic then organizations such as the AOPA, AARP,
NRA and PTA
| should
| have no influence?
|
|
| While those groups certainly are corporations, they do
represent their
| members (hundreds of thousands of citizens) unlike
Halliburton, Enron,
| Exxon, Accuweather, Carlyle Group, ..., that exert more
legislative
| influence than the lawmakers' own constituents.
|
| Big business only represents greed, and their unethical
| (Abramoffesque) corruption of legislators must be
stopped.
|
|
|
| So it's just companies that you don't agree with for one
reason or another
| that shouldn't have influence? I'll make sure when the
reform laws are
| passed we legislate that you get the final OK on who gets
free speech.
|
| The problem isn't the companies doing the influencing and
not really the
| politicians that allow themselves to be to be influenced.
The problem is the
| voters that keep reelecting the politicians.
|
| Everybody thinks Congress as a whole sucks but love their
own rep and/or
| senator.
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:4ds8g.18330$ZW3.15406@dukeread04...
Congress is powerful because of the tax laws. Business
can't plan ahead more than a 2 years because every election
brings new tax policies. Alter the tax code, perhaps H.R.
25 The Fair Tax Act, that will remove a lot of the day to
day special loopholes for one segment and also do away with
the IRS. Then taxes will be based on what you spend, not
what you earn. If Congressmen have less power they won't be
bribed as often because they would not be able to give
special favors.



I have not a clue as to what the Fair Tax Act calls for or does. But keep in
mind that like all laws that Congress passes it can be changed by yet
another law Congress passes.

Remember the law on unfunded mandates. Big news when that fine law passed.
There was no news when the one ending passed and passed it must have because
unfunded mandates are back.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...

Everybody thinks Congress as a whole sucks but love their own rep and/or
senator.

Not everybody. Both of my senators suck and my rep is only fair to
middlin'.

In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:

Everybody thinks Congress as a whole sucks but love their own rep and/or
senator.

Not everybody. Please take the taxachusetts senators and reps. blech.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

While those groups certainly are corporations, they do represent their
members (hundreds of thousands of citizens) unlike Halliburton, Enron,
Exxon, Accuweather, Carlyle Group, ..., that exert more legislative
influence than the lawmakers' own constituents.



Huh ???? As a stock owner of some of those companies (through my 401k,
mutual finds and other investments that will help me retire one day) ...
yes ... those corporations that "I" own ....do represent me.

Sooooo many people forget who the corps are. They are owned by
millions of little old ladies' retirement savings. People just see the
CEO fat cats and think they are the owners. Bt the vast majority of
most public corporations are owned by everyday Americans who have their
savings in IRA's, credit unions, banks, 401ks , etc.

WE, THE PEOPLE ... ARE corporate America. And I'm proud of it.

Edward