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Old May 16th 06, 01:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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Also, isn't the DC motor sparks thrown around inside a power screw driver a bit of a safety hazard?


wrote in message oups.com...
You know what? I've been through this one so many times, but it's been



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Old May 14th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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In article .com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

I strip a fair number of screws every year -- but I've NEVER had to
drill any out on either of the planes we've owned.


Can you replace them with Torx screws? I have found that they are much
more resistant to striping that phillips head screws. I use them a lot
on cars transmissions...



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Old May 14th 06, 09:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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Eduardo K. writes:

I strip a fair number of screws every year -- but I've NEVER had to
drill any out on either of the planes we've owned.


Can you replace them with Torx screws? I have found that they are much
more resistant to striping that phillips head screws. I use them a lot
on cars transmissions...



Exactly my thoughts. Torx ranks up there with GPS and electric starters
as all-time great inventions.
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Old May 14th 06, 10:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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I strip a fair number of screws every year -- but I've NEVER had to
drill any out on either of the planes we've owned.


Can you replace them with Torx screws?


I don't know.

In the "real world" that is a no-brainer. In the bizarro world of the
FAA, I have no idea if Torx screws are legal...

Toecutter? Jim Weir? Jim Macklin? Can we, as owners, use any old
fasteners we want for all those access panels?
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
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Old May 15th 06, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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If it has a aircraft part number such as AN, NAS and such.
The materials and treatment [strength] must be in
conformance with the standard. Torx, Phillips, Reed-Prince
[looks like a Phillips but is sharp pointed] plain slot can
all meet the standard.


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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| I strip a fair number of screws every year -- but I've
NEVER had to
| drill any out on either of the planes we've owned.
|
| Can you replace them with Torx screws?
|
| I don't know.
|
| In the "real world" that is a no-brainer. In the bizarro
world of the
| FAA, I have no idea if Torx screws are legal...
|
| Toecutter? Jim Weir? Jim Macklin? Can we, as owners,
use any old
| fasteners we want for all those access panels?
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|


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Old May 14th 06, 05:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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What I like is when you have everything in neat little tupperware cups
underneath the appropriate parts of the plane -- and then the shop
moves the plane. Or they pull an extension cord under your plane, and
lasso all the parts buckets. Or they get kicked over. THAT is my pet
peeve about doing an annual.


That's why you have all those little cloth "tea" bags, with paper tags and
tie strings, to tie the screws/parts etc to the nearest screw hole, they are
not left lying on the floor in bins to tip over.

BT


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Old May 15th 06, 01:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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BTIZ wrote:
What I like is when you have everything in neat little tupperware cups
underneath the appropriate parts of the plane -- and then the shop
moves the plane. Or they pull an extension cord under your plane, and
lasso all the parts buckets. Or they get kicked over. THAT is my pet
peeve about doing an annual.


That's why you have all those little cloth "tea" bags, with paper tags and
tie strings, to tie the screws/parts etc to the nearest screw hole, they are
not left lying on the floor in bins to tip over.


Yep. Available at Aircraft Spruce (they call them tobacco bags) for a
very reasonable price.

-jav
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Old May 15th 06, 01:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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Its quite depressing to see my plane
in so many pieces. I've also discovered that its extreamly irritating
that the aircraft parts places are closed on weekends.


What I like is when you have everything in neat little tupperware cups
underneath the appropriate parts of the plane -- and then the shop
moves the plane. Or they pull an extension cord under your plane, and
lasso all the parts buckets. Or they get kicked over. THAT is my pet
peeve about doing an annual.



Get your mechanic to come to your hangar.

This worked really well for me, I had the plane all taken apart,
lubricated, etc., by the time Jim came over and did his IA thing.

No parts were lost, the plane wasn't pushed around, etc. Worked really well.

Of course, I'm having one hell of a time finding a Jim Equivalent Person
here in NC now, so I'm slowly starting to fret about this year's annual.

Say Jim, I send you an airline ticket...

-jav
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Old May 15th 06, 02:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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Get your mechanic to come to your hangar.

This worked really well for me, I had the plane all taken apart,
lubricated, etc., by the time Jim came over and did his IA thing.


Great idea, but for one little detail: It's colder than heck here in
March, when my annual is due!

Our hangar is unheated (unless you call our Jet-A powered torpedo
heater "heat". It scorches a 5 square foot area, and everything else
is still freezing!), and my extremities just don't handle the cold very
well anymore. Fine motor skills -- like those required for screwing in
a hundred little screws -- are the first thing to go...
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old May 15th 06, 06:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.owning
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So next year do the bulk of the annual on the 31st of March and screw in the
last nutplate on the 1st of April, when the signing takes place. Following
year 30th of April and the 1st of May. Now your annual is due in May. Or
June. Or July. Whatever fires your rocket.

Jim



"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Get your mechanic to come to your hangar.

This worked really well for me, I had the plane all taken apart,
lubricated, etc., by the time Jim came over and did his IA thing.


Great idea, but for one little detail: It's colder than heck here in
March, when my annual is due!



 




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