Locate airports by radius from a given airport

Pick some places you'd like to visit and then see if they
are far enough away. The minimum distances are just that,
minimums. You could go to Oshkosh, straight line and then
come back by a different route. There are good restaurants
on/near many airports. But there also are other
attractions. West Yellowstone is a gateway to Yellowstone
National Park, Glacier National Park, don't miss an
adventure because it is a few miles further away.



"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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| Roy Smith wrote:
|
| Matt Whiting wrote:
|
|
| You can't spend $8 on a WAC chart? G Your school
or FBO doesn't
| have one on the wall that you can use for free?
|
| Yes, and yes. However, I was going to do the flight
planning tomorrow
| and I can't get a WAC that quickly (the "local" FBO
doesn't stock them)
| and the FBO is 35 miles away and I'd rather not drive 70
miles with gas
| prices at $3/gallon if I don't have to.
|
|
| Maybe I'm being a little silly here, but I'm thinking a
commercial pilot
| should be up to a higher level of flight planning. Your
boss is going to
| say, "I need to be in XYZ for a 9:00 AM meeting; get me
there". It's your
| job to figure out a good airport that's close to XYZ,
has approaches
| appropriate for the weather, all needed services
available, ground
| transport arranged for, and worked into the schedule,
etc. Nowhere in that
| scenario does "the dog ate my chart" seem like a useful
thing to say.
|
| I don't disagree, but there are two reasons I'm not too
worried about it
| at present.
|
| 1. I just learned I would be able to get next week off on
vacation and
| am trying to get my commercial flight training accelerated
into next
| week as much as possible as I'm taking a masters program
and have only
| one week between semesters. I wasn't planning to fly next
week until a
| couple of days ago.
|
| 2. I have no plans to ever actually fly commercially (I
make way more
| than almost any commercial pilot as an engineering
manager). I'm
| getting the license purely for the challenge and to have
an excuse to
| fly and train. So, I'm probably not "thinking
commercially" because I
| have no plans to fly commercially.
|
|
| Matt

Jim Macklin wrote:
Pick some places you'd like to visit and then see if they
are far enough away. The minimum distances are just that,
minimums. You could go to Oshkosh, straight line and then
come back by a different route. There are good restaurants
on/near many airports. But there also are other
attractions. West Yellowstone is a gateway to Yellowstone
National Park, Glacier National Park, don't miss an
adventure because it is a few miles further away.

I agree with your philosophy, but I simply don't have time for a really
long cross-country. I'm working full-time, going to graduate school
nearly full-time and still trying to get the commercial finished before
my written expires in December. I may have to bit the bullet and retake
the written once my masters is finished in 2007, but I'm hoping to avoid
that.


Matt

Jim Macklin wrote:

Pick some places you'd like to visit and then see if they
are far enough away. The minimum distances are just that,
minimums. You could go to Oshkosh, straight line and then
come back by a different route. There are good restaurants
on/near many airports. But there also are other
attractions. West Yellowstone is a gateway to Yellowstone
National Park, Glacier National Park, don't miss an
adventure because it is a few miles further away.


Uh, don't fly to WYS and think it's a gateway to Glacier. You're an
eight hour drive from Glacier when you leave the parking lot at WYS. If
you're going to Glacier you want Kalispell City or Kalispell on the west
side or Cut Bank on the east side.

I took most of my writtens several times before I had the
money to get the hours. Never busted a written, but back in
my day they were actually "free" on paper at the FSDO. I
took all the fixed wing writtens, about the time I got my
private, CFI,CFII, Comm., IFR,FOI,Ground Basic and
Instrument [that got me the CGIA&I].
But an 8 hour day will get you 1,000 NM, which makes your
radius of action about 500 NM. Part 135 duty day is 13
hours, so you can even fly eight hours and have plenty of
time for a meal and fuel stops.


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Pick some places you'd like to visit and then see if
they
| are far enough away. The minimum distances are just
that,
| minimums. You could go to Oshkosh, straight line and
then
| come back by a different route. There are good
restaurants
| on/near many airports. But there also are other
| attractions. West Yellowstone is a gateway to
Yellowstone
| National Park, Glacier National Park, don't miss an
| adventure because it is a few miles further away.
|
| I agree with your philosophy, but I simply don't have time
for a really
| long cross-country. I'm working full-time, going to
graduate school
| nearly full-time and still trying to get the commercial
finished before
| my written expires in December. I may have to bit the
bullet and retake
| the written once my masters is finished in 2007, but I'm
hoping to avoid
| that.
|
|
| Matt

Poor writing style, didn't mean to say WYS for Glacier, but
I didn't take the time to proper say so. Thanks for the
correction.


"Newps" wrote in message
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|
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Pick some places you'd like to visit and then see if
they
| are far enough away. The minimum distances are just
that,
| minimums. You could go to Oshkosh, straight line and
then
| come back by a different route. There are good
restaurants
| on/near many airports. But there also are other
| attractions. West Yellowstone is a gateway to
Yellowstone
| National Park, Glacier National Park, don't miss an
| adventure because it is a few miles further away.
|
|
| Uh, don't fly to WYS and think it's a gateway to Glacier.
You're an
| eight hour drive from Glacier when you leave the parking
lot at WYS. If
| you're going to Glacier you want Kalispell City or
Kalispell on the west
| side or Cut Bank on the east side.

Jim Macklin wrote:

I took most of my writtens several times before I had the
money to get the hours. Never busted a written, but back in
my day they were actually "free" on paper at the FSDO. I
took all the fixed wing writtens, about the time I got my
private, CFI,CFII, Comm., IFR,FOI,Ground Basic and
Instrument [that got me the CGIA&I].

Money isn't my biggest limitation at the present, but I've been there.
I think I paid something like $85 to take the commercial written. Not a
huge deal if I have to take it again, I'm just hoping to avoid that if
possible. The problem now is that our club plane is in for its annual
and I heard today that it may not be done by next week. Always something...


Matt

"Newps" wrote in message
...


Jim Macklin wrote:

Pick some places you'd like to visit and then see if they are far enough
away. The minimum distances are just that, minimums. You could go to
Oshkosh, straight line and then come back by a different route. There
are good restaurants on/near many airports. But there also are other
attractions. West Yellowstone is a gateway to Yellowstone National Park,
Glacier National Park, don't miss an adventure because it is a few miles
further away.


Uh, don't fly to WYS and think it's a gateway to Glacier. You're an eight
hour drive from Glacier when you leave the parking lot at WYS. If you're
going to Glacier you want Kalispell City or Kalispell on the west side or
Cut Bank on the east side.

Kalispell's Glacier Intl?

Thanks for the note on the eastern side. How accessible is the park from Cut
Bank? Kalispell is closer, but Cut Bank seems to be easier approaches and
cheaper fuel. Correct?


--
"I had one fundamental question about
economics: Why are some places prosperous
and thriving while others just suck? It's not
a matter of brains. No part of the earth (with
the possible exception of Brentwood) is dumber
than Beverly Hills, and the residents are wading
in gravy. Meanwhile in Russia, where chess is
a spectator sport, they're boiling stones for soup.
" -- P.J. O'Rourke in Eat the Rich

I worked for a man many years ago who said it takes three
things to get anything done, Time, desire and money, any two
are easy to get. He also said you can do anything you want
as long as you don't talk about it, or you talk about
anything you want as long as you don't do it.

Good luck with your schedule. BTW, typo alert, FAR duty day
is 14 hours, actually 10 consecutive hours of duty rest are
required. When we scheduled a charter, we would always ask
our passengers what their expected schedule was, if they
came anywhere close to the limit, we explained before
take-off about the options, If my day started at 5 AM for a
6 AM take-off, my day was done at 7 PM and we'd have to stay
over-night. But if I left the airport and checked into a
motel and got 10 hours rest away from the airport, my day
would be extended if the rest was ten hours. Often they
didn't know their schedule or would not worry about it,
they'd get drunk and be watch a ball game and then be angry
when they showed up at the airport when I had been on-duty
for 13 hours and there was a 2 hour flight to get home.


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| I took most of my writtens several times before I had
the
| money to get the hours. Never busted a written, but
back in
| my day they were actually "free" on paper at the FSDO.
I
| took all the fixed wing writtens, about the time I got
my
| private, CFI,CFII, Comm., IFR,FOI,Ground Basic and
| Instrument [that got me the CGIA&I].
|
| Money isn't my biggest limitation at the present, but I've
been there.
| I think I paid something like $85 to take the commercial
written. Not a
| huge deal if I have to take it again, I'm just hoping to
avoid that if
| possible. The problem now is that our club plane is in
for its annual
| and I heard today that it may not be done by next week.
Always something...
|
|
| Matt

In article YX5eg.24191$ZW3.20573@dukeread04,
"Jim Macklin" wrote:

Good luck with your schedule. BTW, typo alert, FAR duty day
is 14 hours, actually 10 consecutive hours of duty rest are
required. When we scheduled a charter, we would always ask
our passengers what their expected schedule was, if they
came anywhere close to the limit, we explained before
take-off about the options, If my day started at 5 AM for a
6 AM take-off, my day was done at 7 PM and we'd have to stay
over-night. But if I left the airport and checked into a
motel and got 10 hours rest away from the airport, my day
would be extended if the rest was ten hours. Often they
didn't know their schedule or would not worry about it,
they'd get drunk and be watch a ball game and then be angry
when they showed up at the airport when I had been on-duty
for 13 hours and there was a 2 hour flight to get home.

Sounds like a problem that's easy to solve. Just fly a second crew in to
take you back home. All it takes is sufficient money and desire :-)

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