Survival II

Montblack wrote:
("David Kazdan" wrote)
We fussed over the notion for several minutes that we had a car with a
full gas tank and a lot of readily available energy in its battery,
and we couldn't figure out how to light a safe fire. What to do?


Now I'm curious. Would the match have lit touching it on the exhaust
manifold - under the hood?


Montblack

Don't cars come with cigarette lighters any more???

Tony

No Honda vehicles do at all nor the associated ashtrays. I think there
are others too.
Now instead of lighters - they call them power-ports and they won't
work a lighter element.

It's hell trying to light a joint.


Anthony W wrote:


Don't cars come with cigarette lighters any more???

Tony

Rentals in general don't; at least, this one didn't.

David

nondem wrote:
No Honda vehicles do at all nor the associated ashtrays. I think there
are others too.
Now instead of lighters - they call them power-ports and they won't
work a lighter element.

It's hell trying to light a joint.


Anthony W wrote:


Don't cars come with cigarette lighters any more???

Tony

wrote:

As with ability to make fire, when it comes to survival the need for a
knife -- for the ability to cut things, beginning with your own safety
harness -- is fundamental. Experience has shown that a pocket-knife
that is HABITUALLY carried is more practical than a special-purpose
'survival knife' that is not. The key issue here is not the type of
knife nor its size but the fact you always have it with you.

Hmmm.

I've learned that disagreeing with veedubber is not to be undertaken
lightly.

I *habitually* carry a leatherman wave on my belt. It occasionally
gets me an odd look at a meeting, but I tell them that my dying father
bought it for me after 9/11 and asked me to carry it every day. I also
carry an LED flashlight and a small Swiss army knife on my keyring.

I can make fire with a fire bow and my shoelace, but I think I'm going
to look at a little magnesium/flint firemaker for my keychain as well.

In article .com,
"Richard Riley" wrote:

I also carry an LED flashlight and a small Swiss army knife
on my keyring.

So do I!!! To which I add a flat ACR whistle and BIC lighter with duct
tape wrapped around it.

john smith wrote:
In article .com,
"Richard Riley" wrote:


I also carry an LED flashlight and a small Swiss army knife
on my keyring.


So do I!!! To which I add a flat ACR whistle and BIC lighter with duct
tape wrapped around it.

That must be SOME KEYRING!!

On 8 Jun 2006 09:18:59 -0700, wrote:

To All:

About a month ago I posted a message having to do with aircraft crash
survival in which I touched on the ability to make a fire, and the
features found in a good survival knife. The post produced the usual
comments some of which were rather surprising and may be of interest to
some of you.


fires are good. make one in the australian outback and eventually
someone will show up to find out why it got lit. ....thats the theory.

if you really want to survive carry water.

a sheet of transparent plastic over a hole full of scrub with a stone
in the middle with a can underneath will collect enough water over
time in the sun to keep you alive.

when I'm travelling over the gaffa I carry all that stuff ....but I
attend to the maintenance first so that the aircraft will never give
me a problem.
Stealth Pilot

Stealth Pilot wrote:
if you really want to survive carry water.

of course, if you really, REALLY want to survive, carry a 406 mhz ELT
with a built in GPS, and lithium ion batteries.

And for the really, really REALLY folks, there's satellite phones.

Rule of Three's

3 minutes without air (brain damage)
3 hours without water (dehydration)
3 days without sleep (loss of cognitive function)
3 weeks without food (tissue breakdown)

"john smith" wrote in message
...
Rule of Three's

3 minutes without air (brain damage)
3 hours without water (dehydration)

I should be dead many times over if this was true. I've been 12 hours
without food and water and i still talk

3 days without sleep (loss of cognitive function)
3 weeks without food (tissue breakdown)