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Old July 8th 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/04/cst.02.html


CAPT. CHARLES NESBY, CUNNINGHAM FRIEND: That's the nature of the beast
in all of us that are fighter pilots. You're naturally aggressive.


Bull Crap Nes; you can be aggressive as hell and still remain honest.
Actually, in a twisted way, although aggressiveness is a must in flying high
performance airplanes; honesty is even more important a trait in a fighter
pilot.
An aggressive fighter pilot who is incapable of assessing his own
performance honestly will soon become a dead fighter pilot!

Dudley Henriques
Past President 1971-1985
International Fighter Pilots Association


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Old July 8th 06, 01:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
John Carrier
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.

Dirty Harry put it this way, "A man's got to know his limitations." I was
always amazed by the capacity for self-delusion suffered by some aviators:
"Great" gun passes with the pipper off target. "Rails" approaches that
weren't. etc.

R / John

PS. IIRC Chuck Nesby wasn't a fighter pilot.

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
k.net...

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/04/cst.02.html


CAPT. CHARLES NESBY, CUNNINGHAM FRIEND: That's the nature of the beast
in all of us that are fighter pilots. You're naturally aggressive.


Bull Crap Nes; you can be aggressive as hell and still remain honest.
Actually, in a twisted way, although aggressiveness is a must in flying
high performance airplanes; honesty is even more important a trait in a
fighter pilot.
An aggressive fighter pilot who is incapable of assessing his own
performance honestly will soon become a dead fighter pilot!

Dudley Henriques
Past President 1971-1985
International Fighter Pilots Association



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Old July 8th 06, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Dudley Henriques[_1_]
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.


"John Carrier" wrote in message
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Dirty Harry put it this way, "A man's got to know his limitations." I was
always amazed by the capacity for self-delusion suffered by some aviators:
"Great" gun passes with the pipper off target. "Rails" approaches that
weren't. etc.

R / John


"ain't it the truth"

You know, and I'm sure you will know exactly what I'm talking about there;
when its all been said and done for Cunningham, what's really going to hurt
him the most is what has happened to his reputation inside the community he
knew and loved the best. That alone, is a penalty above all the others, and
one that will follow him the rest of his days.
What a shame.......and what a waste!
Dudley


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Old July 8th 06, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Larry Dighera
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.

On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:04:32 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote in
et::

when its all been said and done for Cunningham, what's really going to hurt
him the most is what has happened to his reputation inside the community he
knew and loved the best. That alone, is a penalty above all the others, and
one that will follow him the rest of his days.


Personally, I'd feel that justice was significantly better served if
Cunningham were made to make restitution for results of the illegal
acts he committed.

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Old July 8th 06, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Ian MacLure
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.

Larry Dighera wrote in
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:04:32 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote in
et::

when its all been said and done for Cunningham, what's really going to
hurt him the most is what has happened to his reputation inside the
community he knew and loved the best. That alone, is a penalty above all
the others, and one that will follow him the rest of his days.


Personally, I'd feel that justice was significantly better served if
Cunningham were made to make restitution for results of the illegal
acts he committed.


Did the bribers actually deliver what they were supposed to?
Out of idle curiosity.
I suppose I could stroll over to their offices and ask

IBM

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Old July 8th 06, 03:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Ed Rasimus[_1_]
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.

On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:27:55 GMT, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/04/cst.02.html


CAPT. CHARLES NESBY, CUNNINGHAM FRIEND: That's the nature of the beast
in all of us that are fighter pilots. You're naturally aggressive.


Bull Crap Nes; you can be aggressive as hell and still remain honest.
Actually, in a twisted way, although aggressiveness is a must in flying high
performance airplanes; honesty is even more important a trait in a fighter
pilot.
An aggressive fighter pilot who is incapable of assessing his own
performance honestly will soon become a dead fighter pilot!

Dudley Henriques
Past President 1971-1985
International Fighter Pilots Association

Twoop!


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com
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Old July 8th 06, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Morgans[_2_]
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.


"Ed Rasimus" wrote

Twoop!


????
--
Jim in NC


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Old July 8th 06, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Jeff Crowell[_1_]
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.

Ed Rasimus wrote
Twoop!


Morgans wrote:
????


Ed's just checking in on the flight freq! ;-)


Jeff


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Old July 8th 06, 03:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Jay Honeck
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct and disgraced my office.

Cunningham is now serving a federal prison term for bribery. The San
Diego Republican was sentenced yesterday to eight years and four
months for taking bribes from at least three defense contractors.


This whole thing is so sad. Duke Cunningham was always one of my
heroes, and to see him completely fall from grace is stunning. What a
stupid, stupid thing to do.

Just goes to show you that a great fighter pilot doesn't necessarily
make an honest politician, I guess.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old July 8th 06, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Matt Whiting
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Default Top Gun CUNNINGHAM: I broke the law, concealed my conduct anddisgraced my office.

Jay Honeck wrote:

Cunningham is now serving a federal prison term for bribery. The San
Diego Republican was sentenced yesterday to eight years and four
months for taking bribes from at least three defense contractors.



This whole thing is so sad. Duke Cunningham was always one of my
heroes, and to see him completely fall from grace is stunning. What a
stupid, stupid thing to do.

Just goes to show you that a great fighter pilot doesn't necessarily
make an honest politician, I guess.


Is there such a person as an honest politician? I don't think those two
words can appear in the same sentence anymore.


Matt
 




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