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("Emily" wrote)
I work for a manufacturer of high-bypass turbofans and they're still extremely loud. I also live next to one of the busiest airports in the country. Believe me, there's not much difference between old and new. Not sure if Honda's "GE-Honda" HF118 Turbofan Engine qualifies as 'high-bipass' ....it is extremely quiet. On flybys at OSH, the HondaJet sounded like a handheld hairdryer, left running across the room - on medium. "The HF118 produces 1,700 lbf of thrust, and meets ICAO Stage IV noise requirements. The sole application as of 2006 is for the HA-420 HondaJet." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbofan Learning about high-bypass turbofans.... g Montblack |
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![]() "Montblack" wrote On flybys at OSH, the HondaJet sounded like a handheld hairdryer, left running across the room - on medium. "The HF118 produces 1,700 lbf of thrust, and meets ICAO Stage IV noise requirements. The sole application as of 2006 is for the HA-420 HondaJet." It is also very important as to how the engine is installed, and the attention given to intake and exhaust profiles. The C-17, for example, is about the quietest transport I have ever heard. When you look at the intake, there is something unusual to it. All over on the inside of the intake, there a hundreds if not thousands of small (1/8th inch ?) holes, drilled in specific patterns. They are said to have a large effect on absorbing the shrill noise coming from the compressor, and leaving out the front of the engine. I would bet that there are some tricks to the Honda ducting and installation, also. It also occurs to me that the engine being above the wing would block some of the noise from reaching the ground. Anyone know about that? -- Jim in NC |
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Montblack writes:
Not sure if Honda's "GE-Honda" HF118 Turbofan Engine qualifies as 'high-bipass' ...it is extremely quiet. You can usually recognize high-bypass fans because they are quite fat in front (because of the large fan), and often the nacelle has two salient parts, a fat part in the front and a thinner part in the back. They are quieter because the flow of air from the fan acts as a buffer between the noisy flow from the exhaust and the surrounding air. They are also more efficient than turbojets at high subsonic speeds. I think there is at least one supersonic turbofan design, but I don't know to what extent they are used for this in production aircraft. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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I have jump seated on many carrierst where the autopilot is engaged at
700 msl, blown through altitudes on the 'baby' dc-9, I Love to fly and usually hand-fly one leg each day. You can tell when drinks have been served since people start using the can. Bush On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:01:34 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: How much of an average commercial flight on a large airline and aircraft today is done automatically, via autopilot, autoland, and so on? Including takeoff and landing. I know that the bulk of a flight is on autopilot, which makes sense since autopilots are good at flying planes and that's lots of hours to sit holding a yoke, but what about the fun parts, such as takeoff and landing? Systems exist to fully automate both, but are such systems routinely installed and used today? Do airlines have policies that require or prohibit the use of such systems under normal conditions? I've heard that in cruise flight, at least, airlines want their pilots to stay on autopilot as much as possible, to save fuel. |
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Bush writes:
I have jump seated on many carrierst where the autopilot is engaged at 700 msl, blown through altitudes on the 'baby' dc-9, I Love to fly and usually hand-fly one leg each day. You can tell when drinks have been served since people start using the can. Do you have indicators in the cockpit that tell you when the toilets are being used?? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Bush writes: I have jump seated on many carrierst where the autopilot is engaged at 700 msl, blown through altitudes on the 'baby' dc-9, I Love to fly and usually hand-fly one leg each day. You can tell when drinks have been served since people start using the can. Do you have indicators in the cockpit that tell you when the toilets are being used?? No but there's a trim wheel that will start running when people begin to move toward the rear of the cabin to use the lavatories. Jay B |
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