Can some explain "cabin glare" to me?

"Michael" wrote in message
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I have an idea what it means but, when you puts things on paper, you
want to confirm precisely what something means, you know? Anyway, I've
decided to go with something better. Sorry everyone.

I can't believe not a single pilot answered this, however. This is,
afterall, and aviation group.
Hopefully none of you are pilots or we're in big trouble.

WHOA, Big Fella!!!!
What's your birthdate?
I've been a pilot since 1974 and I never heard the term.
If the grammar and composition you exhibited in your posts are
indications of your lyric skills, you need to find a real job. Don't come in
with your smart-ass criticism about some trumped up phrase =you= can't even
relate to aviation.

"Michael" wrote in message
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Michael wrote:
Stella Starr wrote:


Several people who answered it are pilots.
they said so.
I'm a pilot.
It's not an aviation term.
You may not like it, but that's the answer and you are wrong in
thinking
it's anything else.
Suck it up, honey.

In that case, I humbly defer to the experts and apologize for any
presumptions on my part.

You know what?

Go to this url - http://tinyurl.com/qdn4p - and do a "Find On Page" for
"cabin glare".

I knew there was such a thing as "cabin glare".


Looks like that was written by an engineer or a marketing type, not a pilot.

try rec.aviation.marketing-types

Michael,


Go to this url - http://tinyurl.com/qdn4p - and do a "Find On Page" for
"cabin glare".

I knew there was such a thing as "cabin glare".

This reference addresses the glare from exterior light entering the
passenger cabin through the passenger windows and washing out seat back
video monitors and/or laptop computer screens (i.e. "glare"). The 787
passenger windows are incorporating electro-chromic coatings that allow
the transmission of light through the windows to be electrically
controlled from over 90% transmissive down to less than 1%
transmissive.

I started my career as an engineer at Boeing in 1987 in the Flight Deck
IR&D group, and one of the things I researched was using electrochromic
coatings on the flight deck windows so that the pilots wouldn't have to
wear sunglasses, and the displays could be run at lower power settings.
Unfortunately it was decided that there needed to be substantial
operational data accumulated before such a system could be implemented
on the Boeing 777 flight deck windows.

Some of my co-workers who are still at Boeing told me that they tried
to get electro-chromic windows for the 787 flight deck, but the same
lack of data problem was preventing it. Fortunately, they decided to
implement it on the larger than typical passenger windows for the 787,
with a central control that gives the flight attendants most of the
control range and individual controls for each window to allow
passengers to have a smaller degree of control. This allows the FAs to
dim the cabin for movies, but individuals can still look outside if
they choose, but through a window that is dark enough not to affect
other passengers who are watching the movie...

Hopefully after several years of 787 operation experience, Boeing will
finally have the data required to make a decision about putting the
sunglasses on the airplane instead of the pilots, which will have
numerous operational benefits including lower power to the avionics and
lower heat loads in the flight deck.

Dean

On 2006-09-07, Michael wrote:

I can't believe not a single pilot answered this, however. This is,
afterall, and aviation group.
Hopefully none of you are pilots or we're in big trouble.

Cabin glare is a very important aviation term. I didn't learn it to
my peril -- I was killed last week in a cabin glare accident. Maybe
someone will write a song about it if they can rhyme with "view limiting
device".

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

http://www.ben.com/

Ben Jackson wrote:
On 2006-09-07, Michael wrote:

I can't believe not a single pilot answered this, however. This is,
afterall, and aviation group.
Hopefully none of you are pilots or we're in big trouble.

Cabin glare is a very important aviation term. I didn't learn it to
my peril -- I was killed last week in a cabin glare accident. Maybe
someone will write a song about it if they can rhyme with "view limiting
device".

Don't know about a song - how about a poem like this:

There are strange things done 'neath class A space
By the pilots who moil for gold.
The contrails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold.
The TRACONs have seen queer sights
But the queerest they ever did see,
Was that night on the approach to Lake LeBarge
When I crashed into Sam McGee.

;-)
(With apologies to Robert W. Service.)

Michael wrote:
Michael wrote:
Stella Starr wrote:

Several people who answered it are pilots.
they said so.
I'm a pilot.
It's not an aviation term.
You may not like it, but that's the answer and you are wrong in thinking
it's anything else.
Suck it up, honey.
In that case, I humbly defer to the experts and apologize for any
presumptions on my part.

You know what?

Go to this url - http://tinyurl.com/qdn4p - and do a "Find On Page" for
"cabin glare".

I knew there was such a thing as "cabin glare".

That's not an aviation term. That's glare that just happens to be in a
cabin. Like glare that just happens to be in a house or car or whatever.

Jim Logajan wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
On 2006-09-07, Michael wrote:
I can't believe not a single pilot answered this, however. This is,
afterall, and aviation group.
Hopefully none of you are pilots or we're in big trouble.
Cabin glare is a very important aviation term. I didn't learn it to
my peril -- I was killed last week in a cabin glare accident. Maybe
someone will write a song about it if they can rhyme with "view limiting
device".

Don't know about a song - how about a poem like this:

There are strange things done 'neath class A space
By the pilots who moil for gold.
The contrails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold.
The TRACONs have seen queer sights
But the queerest they ever did see,
Was that night on the approach to Lake LeBarge
When I crashed into Sam McGee.

;-)
(With apologies to Robert W. Service.)

Um, you didn't use "cabin glare".

That's not an aviation term. That's glare that just happens to be in a
cabin. Like glare that just happens to be in a house or car or whatever.

Correct. Glare is not an aviation specific term, it is a term often
applied in Display Technology, and has to do with bright light
reflecting off of the surface of a display.

The term cabin glare simply refers to glare that happens to occur in a
passenger cabin.

Dean

Emily wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
On 2006-09-07, Michael wrote:
I can't believe not a single pilot answered this, however. This is,
afterall, and aviation group.
Hopefully none of you are pilots or we're in big trouble.
Cabin glare is a very important aviation term. I didn't learn it to
my peril -- I was killed last week in a cabin glare accident. Maybe
someone will write a song about it if they can rhyme with "view
limiting device".

Don't know about a song - how about a poem like this:

There are strange things done 'neath class A space
By the pilots who moil for gold.
The contrails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold.
The TRACONs have seen queer sights
But the queerest they ever did see,
Was that night on the approach to Lake LeBarge
When I crashed into Sam McGee.

;-)
(With apologies to Robert W. Service.)

Um, you didn't use "cabin glare".

Well shucks, it's in the penultimate stanza. Oh wait - I didn't write that
far. I think it goes like this:

And there sat Sam, looking cool and calm,
In the heart of the cabin glare;
And he wore a smile you could see a mile,
And he said: "Please raise those blinds.
It's fine in here, but I greatly fear
You'll close out the sun and shine --
Since I left Plumtree, down in Tennessee,
It's the first time I've been warm.

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pilots wouldn't have to
wear sunglasses,
Dean


That's just funny. No self respecting pilot is going to give up their
sunglasses.