Which of these is cheating?

IFR standards are approx -+100'. Most of try for -+50'. Not easy at
first. Gets easier after a while. You have to keep glancing at the
altimeter.

Doug writes:

IFR standards are approx -+100'. Most of try for -+50'. Not easy at
first. Gets easier after a while. You have to keep glancing at the
altimeter.

Thus far I find it pretty difficult. Phugoid movements and stuff like
that mean that I have to constantly adjust. I'm not sure at what
point it's better to trim or use control movements, but I'm not having
much success either way.

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Judah writes:

Is remaining within the lines of a highway important, or is it OK to swerve
in and out of moving traffic?

An interesting analogy, since the lanes may be wider than many small
cars, and in some areas there are no lanes. I've heard Americans
complain that there are no lines on many roads in Europe. My answer
is that European drivers are trained well enough to drive in an
appropriate place without lines to show them where they should be.

Are there lanes in VFR, or merely broad roads?

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Judah writes:

What do you mean? What sudden unpleasant consequences are you referring to?

A departure from controlled flight, such as a stall or spin, or in
some cases simply slips or other uncoordinated movements that may make
passengers queasy.

Are you claiming that turning a plane using only the rudder kills?

Apparently so, in some cases, based on what I've read. The stuff I'm
reading claims that it's a common mistake in phases such as landings,
and sometimes it kills the pilot.

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Peter Dohm writes:

If you've ever ridden in a car with a driver who is less than smooth, then
you know the feeling.

There's a certain type of auto driver who is constantly pressing and
releasing the accelerator, even on smooth, uninterrupted highway, and
after a while that can make me queasy. Surely it cannot be that
difficult to find a set speed and maintain it.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Judah writes:

Is remaining within the lines of a highway important, or is it OK to
swerve in and out of moving traffic?

An interesting analogy, since the lanes may be wider than many small
cars, and in some areas there are no lanes. I've heard Americans
complain that there are no lines on many roads in Europe. My answer
is that European drivers are trained well enough to drive in an
appropriate place without lines to show them where they should be.

Are there lanes in VFR, or merely broad roads?

When driving on a road with no lines, do you still stay on the right side
except to pass? Or do you drive down the middle until there is traffic
coming at you in the opposite direction?

Look. I, like most of the other pilots on this forum, spent a significant
amount of money learning to fly. I took a course, bought a video and some
books, took the time to read them, and spent a bunch of hours with an
instructor to get my certification. Flying the plane is the easy part -
it's all of the rules and regulations, systems, navigation techniques, and
emergency operations that make up most of the training to become a pilot.

I think some of the reason that you are having so much trouble getting
cooperation on this forum is that you are asking questions in a way that
demonstrates your clear lack of understanding of basic concepts like VFR
altitudes. You clearly haven't even googled your question, which has been
discussed before on this very forum, and included a wrong assumption that
is so basic it is simply insulting. You are asking the members of this
forum to be your private tutor at no cost, and don't even have the courtesy
to look to see if your question has been answered elsewhere in the FARs or
on the Piloting forums. Personally I have better things to do with my time
(like fly, for one).

You don't even have to pay to learn the answers to the questions you are
asking. You can get most of the information that you are looking for by
googling it. Questions about choosing altitudes to fly, and questions about
the power curve have all been discussed on these forums many times before.
I think you would save yourself a lot of time and hassle if you at least
spent enough time reading the existing threads and regulations that you had
some familiarity with real world flying.

You might even want to go to your local airport and get yourself a
discovery flight.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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A departure from controlled flight, such as a stall or spin, or in
some cases simply slips or other uncoordinated movements that may make
passengers queasy.

Slips and uncoordinated flight are not caused by turning the plane with only
the rudder, unless perhaps done very sharply. Aileron input is required in
order to maintain a slip or uncoordinate flight. Without aileron input the
plane will bank by itself during the turn. There are aerodynamic reasons for
this phenonmenon that I will let you look up online somewhere.

Apparently so, in some cases, based on what I've read. The stuff I'm
reading claims that it's a common mistake in phases such as landings,
and sometimes it kills the pilot.

No. This is inaccurate. Stalls and spins are not caused by the turning of the
plane with the only the rudder. Incorrect coordination of rudder and ailerons
can turn a stall into a spin, but that doesn't cause the stall.

Judah writes:

When driving on a road with no lines, do you still stay on the right side
except to pass?

If you're alone on a country road, you can drive in the middle.

Or do you drive down the middle until there is traffic coming at you
in the opposite direction?

Usually. It depends on the condition of the road, and other factors.

Personally I have better things to do with my time (like fly, for one).

Then don't answer me. I get tired of hearing broken records, too.

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Judah writes:
You are asking the members of this
forum to be your private tutor at no cost, and don't even have the
courtesy
to look to see if your question has been answered elsewhere in the FARs
or
on the Piloting forums. Personally I have better things to do with my
time

Then don't answer me. I get tired of hearing broken records, too.

There seem to be some basic principles of social interaction that are as
unfamiliar to you as basic aviation principles are.

Imagine if you were to approach random people on the street and ask them to
come over and clean your kitchen, for free, so you can spend more time
watching TV. Of course, they can simply ignore you, so you wouldn't be
committing any grave offense. Nonetheless, it would be insultingly
presumptuous of you to even pose such a request.

In the same way, it is insultingly presumptuous of you to deluge these pilot
groups with elementary questions that you would not need to ask if you were
ever to take a flight lesson--questions that are tantamount to asking us to
spoon-feed you, line by line, the content of an introductory flight training
manual (or even the content of your flight-simulator documentation!) when
you steadfastly refuse to read the material yourself, even after we have
repeatedly, politely pointed you to free online sources. (And you compound
the problem by frequently descending into irrational, dishonest
argumentativeness.)

I initially welcomed your participation in this group, until the extent of
your uncooperativeness became apparent. I would be glad to do so again if
you were to start making a good faith effort to educate yourself, as any
actual student pilot would do.

--Gary

I've had a tendency to adjust climb or descent
rates (and altitude to a lesser extent) by making thrust adjustments,
rather than changes in pitch.

I've been using the throttle to adjust descent rate rather than pitch...

That is the way the U.S. Navy teaches it.

vince norris