Mandatory Flight Plans???

NW_Pilot wrote:
Gawd I hope the U.S. don't end up like the European bureaucracy when it
comes to VFR flying!!!!!!!

Huh?
If you refer to flight plans it is only when crossing international
borders(not allways) or when you plan to fly over inhospitable terrain.
And some large busy airports(the really big ones) want you to file a
flight plan, if you are welcome anyway.
Yep, we are really struggeling with our VFR flight plans.

-Kees (D-EHNE)

NW_Pilot writes:

Wow what a weird conversation today!! A few reps / attorneys in my district
were at the bar were talking about the latest GA crash in NYC so I had to
listen in so I bought one a drink at started to mingle a but. They were
talking about making flight plans mandatory and mandatory VFR reporting
points/routs in large city's & near schools.

No surprise here.

By this time I had to interrupt
them and tell them how the voting general aviation public would frown upon
them rules....they were not assertive and were not willing to listen and
told me that the general aviation part of the public is to small to make a
sway in this argument ...

They are right.

... and they will do what ever that they decide they think
is right for the rest (majority) of the public.

More specifically, they'll do whatever they want and rationalize it as
being for the public good.

These guys had no idea about what general aviation really was until I
brought up that the small jets that they fly in for their spur of the moment
trips is considered general aviation then they started to listen a bit.(yea
because now it concerned them)

Yup.

I explained how it would make it more time
consuming to the pilots and also, over load the already stressed controllers
by dumping hundreds or even thousands of extra VFR traffic in to the system
for them to deal with. They responded that it's their job and they would
have to deal with it!

Did you tell them that they'd have to plan their trips a lot further
ahead if flight plans were mandatory?

Gawd I hope the U.S. don't end up like the European bureaucracy when it
comes to VFR flying!!!!!!!

Bureaucracies never shrink on their own.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
NW_Pilot writes:
I explained how it would make it more time
consuming to the pilots and also, over load the already stressed controllers
by dumping hundreds or even thousands of extra VFR traffic in to the system
for them to deal with. They responded that it's their job and they would
have to deal with it!

Did you tell them that they'd have to plan their trips a lot further
ahead if flight plans were mandatory?

I don't see why, unless you think the FAA's computers would get
overloaded.

A lot of people plan and file a flight at the last minute, or even
after take-off.

Kev

"Kev" wrote:

I don't see why, unless you think the FAA's computers would get
overloaded.

A lot of people plan and file a flight at the last minute, or even
after take-off.

And I suspect that the vast majority of GA flights are not on flight
plans.

Ron Lee

Kev writes:

I don't see why, unless you think the FAA's computers would get
overloaded.

It takes longer to prepare a flight plan than it does not to prepare
one, so in theory people could be delayed.

A lot of people plan and file a flight at the last minute, or even
after take-off.

There isn't any need to tell them that part. When one is dealing with
people who aren't very bright, sometimes misinformation can only be
effectively countered by more misinformation, as the reality may be so
subtle that it escapes their understanding.

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Kev wrote:

I don't see why, unless you think the FAA's computers would get
overloaded.

It's not the computer. I can't get anywhere near an FAA
computer. The closest I can get is one of the outsourced
FSS-pukes or piece of crap DUAT vendors.