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Old October 29th 06, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Sylvain
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Jim Macklin wrote:

I am always amazed at the people who will rent or buy a home
below the flood line from an average storm.


May be, I am just guessing here, does it have an influence on
the amount one pays for rent? for some people, such short term
goals do matter a great deal.

--Sylvain
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Old October 30th 06, 12:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It might. But if you go to look at a place to rent and the
high water mark is at the second floor, you should look
elsewhere.


"Sylvain" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
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| I am always amazed at the people who will rent or buy a
home
| below the flood line from an average storm.
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| May be, I am just guessing here, does it have an
influence on
| the amount one pays for rent? for some people, such
short term
| goals do matter a great deal.
|
| --Sylvain


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Old October 29th 06, 04:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bejeeber" wrote in news:1162090921.916075.309980
@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Hey, sorry to be kind of crashing this group since I'm not a pilot.

I bet y'all can help me though.

My current house in the Warm Beach area of Stanwood, Wa 98292 gets
buzzed by small planes all the time - I seem to be on some sort of
regular "route" for planes from Seattle to the San Juans?

Well I'll be moving pretty soon - probably to Athens, GA - and I don't
wish to make the same mistake of locating myself in a neighborhood
that's regularly buzzed over again.

Is there some website I can go to with maps or whatever that will allow
me to find whether a given neighborhood will have busy overhead
traffic, whether small planes or airliners?

Thanks.


I would also recommended you stop into the local Athens Airport.

http://www.athensairport.net/

I'd say call, but I think you will do much better by hanging out at the
flight school for a few hours and talking to the receptionist, the
students, and the instructors especially. Instructors at the flight school
can give you an idea of where they go for practice, what the "typical"
nice-weather runway is, the approach procedures in bad weather, etc... They
will probably be able to show you on a map (Sectional Charts, IFR Low
Altitude Charts, and Approach Plates) the areas of town that are underneath
these routes.

Also, sometimes the best way to avoid noise over your house is the opposite
of what you might expect. For example, I live about halfway between White
Plains airport and Laguardia Airport in NY. I get a lot of planes over my
house on a daily basis, departing or arriving at one of the two airports.
But typically by the time they get here they are in the 10's of thousands
of feet, and all I might hear on a beatiful sunny day is a low hollow rush
as it passes way overhead, almost like a beach noise. I've lived in this
area most of my life, and quite frankly I pretty much tune the noise out.
It's not all that intrusive. Every once in a while, we hear a plane fly
overhead at a fairly low altitude and it's noisy to the point that someone
in the house says, "boy that plane was low!" But that's rare. Because I am
in close proximity to a major airport, the airspace above my home is in
what's called "Class B Airspace". It means that pilots are "controlled" by
ATC, and can't just fly around buzzing and practicing in this area.

In other words, rather than avoid the approaches altogether, you may be
better off finding an area on the approach where planes have to be high.
This way even though you'll have planes flying overhead, they will mostly
be high enough not to be annoying.

Admittedly, it's a little tougher to figure out where planes are going to
be when the weather is clear, since there are far fewer restrictions. And
if the weather is bad, you probably will be inside and won't hear plane
noise anyway. So your best bet might be to talk to neighbors before buying
and see what they say about airplane noise in the area.

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Old October 31st 06, 08:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well I'm learning a lot here, and now based on the replies, I'm
starting to wonder if there's a small plane airline that's ferrying
passengers from Seattle to the Island, and if those pilots stick to a
routine route? Eh just another crackpot theory :^)

But I can say that of the 14 different homes I've lived in so far, this
has the most close planes going over. Wait a minute - I lived next to a
military air base in laguna Hills, Ca. once and those close fighter
jets were actually a bit peskier. :^o

A detail I left out earlier is that I create audio content for a
living. Out of the home. So I'm absolutely way more sensitive to the
pesky noises outside than the average person, no doubt about it.

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Old October 31st 06, 10:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 31 Oct 2006 00:39:22 -0800, "Bejeeber"
wrote in . com:

I lived next to a
military air base in laguna Hills, Ca. once and those close fighter
jets were actually a bit peskier. :^o


Was that just prior to Operation Desert Storm? I was living near the
405/5 wye then, and those nighttime military aircraft operations at El
Toro were remarkably noisy. Perhaps that's the place to live now that
the air base has been closed. There are only two airports (not
counting heliports) civil or military left in Orange County anymore;
Fountain Valley, Seal Beach, Newport Beach, Dana Point, Huntington
Beach, El Toro and Tustin have all been closed.
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Old October 31st 06, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bejeeber" wrote in news:1162283962.447242.212900
@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:


Well I'm learning a lot here, and now based on the replies, I'm
starting to wonder if there's a small plane airline that's ferrying
passengers from Seattle to the Island, and if those pilots stick to a
routine route? Eh just another crackpot theory :^)

But I can say that of the 14 different homes I've lived in so far, this
has the most close planes going over. Wait a minute - I lived next to a
military air base in laguna Hills, Ca. once and those close fighter
jets were actually a bit peskier. :^o

A detail I left out earlier is that I create audio content for a
living. Out of the home. So I'm absolutely way more sensitive to the
pesky noises outside than the average person, no doubt about it.


It's possible. I'm not from that area, but I've been there. There are many
little charter operations (even Seaplane based) that do charters, tours,
etc...
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Old October 31st 06, 06:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bejeeber" wrote in message
ups.com...

Well I'm learning a lot here, and now based on the replies, I'm
starting to wonder if there's a small plane airline that's ferrying
passengers from Seattle to the Island, and if those pilots stick to a
routine route? Eh just another crackpot theory :^)


Well, as I mentioned...you are basically on a direct line between Arlington
Airport and the San Juan Islands. However, there's no commercial scheduled
service out of Arlington, as far as I know. You are definitly not on any
route from Seattle to the San Juans. Even Seattle-to-Bellingham flights are
unlikely to pass over your house.

Without having specific data (log of each flight during the day, over a week
or so, with at least the type of airplane, if not N-number) it's impossible
to say for sure. But I suspect that there's no regular route over your
house, and that you're just experiencing normal, random air traffic.

[...]
A detail I left out earlier is that I create audio content for a
living. Out of the home. So I'm absolutely way more sensitive to the
pesky noises outside than the average person, no doubt about it.


Yes, I can see how airplane traffic would cause a problem for that.
Hopefully the problem is mainly one of distraction. I can't imagine trying
to actually record clean audio in a setting as relatively uncontrolled as a
residential home.

On the bright side, it is not only possible, but even feasible, to create a
relatively sound-proof environment, even in a residential home. It's
basically a remodel, with the associated costs of course. But when you're
dealing with your livelihood, you may find it a worthwhile effort and
expense. And if you *are* doing actual recording, I'd think it'd be *well*
worth it.

Anyway, good luck finding your aircraft-free environment. Hopefully the
resources offered here do help.

Pete


 




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