Panel mount IFR GPS for training ...

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Roy Smith writes:

This is the real crux of the matter with the new stuff. In the old days, I
could jump into pretty much any airplane equipped with VOR receivers and
figure out how to use them. There just wasn't that much functionality, so
the UIs were all pretty much the same.

With modern GPS, glass panel, etc, it's a whole new story. I've spent a
lot of time over the past few years showing people how the CNX-80 (GNS-480)
works. Basic proficiency take 10 flight hours spread out over 4-6 flights,
and that assumes the student puts in some effort to study the manuals
between flights. I would expect another 10 hours of practice on their own
before they launched into any serious IMC.

And, once they have mastered that, they have learned how to fly ONE model
of GPS. If they move to another unit, some of the knowledge will cary
over, but a lot of it will be starting from scratch.

Have you noticed what all these fancy stuff is starting to resemble?
It's starting to look just like ... the world of computers. That's no
a coincidence, but it's a severe turn for the worse.

The cockpit of the future is going to contain a pilot, a computer, and a
dog. The computer's job is to fly the plane. The pilot's job is to feed
the dog. The dog's job is to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything.

Roy Smith writes:

The cockpit of the future is going to contain a pilot, a computer, and a
dog. The computer's job is to fly the plane. The pilot's job is to feed
the dog. The dog's job is to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything.

Maybe so. I know that the airlines dream of being able to dispense
with pilots. They'd like to get rid of flight attendants as well.
Ironically, the first wish will probably come true long before the
second. Eventually I suppose the lead flight attendant will simply
press a big "START" button that has replaced the cockpit when it's
time to begin a flight.

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ktbr wrote:

In my opinion, a GPS without WAAS capability to do the LPV and GLS
approaches isn't really any better than ground based approaches
you can do with your equipment (ILS, LOC, VOR) unless place you fly
out of (or places you go alot) only have GPS approaches.

Well a regular IFR GPS does let you get around some of the
DME/ADF required issues (since I believe he has neither of
those either).

Doug wrote:
A GPS will probably just complicate getting your IFR ticket. Suggest
you start without it, talk to your instructor and look at what other
pilots in your area are doing. Also, talk to your DE. Yes an IFR GPS
is a great instrument to have, but it's actually easier to learn on
traditional instruments.

I think the moving map makes things A LOT EASIER for IFR. Given
a choice, I'd give up my autopilot long before you could have my
moving map. The key is to find an instructor who REALLY KNOWS
the GPS you have in your plane. We spent a good amount of ground
time "buttom mashing" the Garmin simulator before we ever attempted
to fly it.