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Old January 10th 07, 02:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default What does flying mean?

Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:


I'm not sure what the aerodynamic pros can cons are, but having flown
well over 100 hours in Pipers and much more in Cessnas, I haven't seen a
huge difference. The biggest difference I've seen in the Arrow I fly
now as that almost as soon as it touches down you lose a fair bit of
elevator authority and it tends to drop the nosewheel a little more
harshly than I prefer. None of the Cessnas I've flow had the tendency.
The nose would gradually drop with airspeed during the roll-out.


I suspect, but don't really know, that the placement of the main
undercarriage is a greater factor in the effect than the stabilator. I
vaguely recall that Piper took advantage of the greater control authority
possible with the stabilator to install a slightly smaller horizontal tail
surface on one or more models--although I thought that it was the Archer.



fyi - Later cherokees (including the Archer) have a large stabilator than the
earlier cherokees.


When does "later" start? The Arrow I fly is a 67.


Matt
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Old January 10th 07, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Don Tuite
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Default What does flying mean?

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:46:10 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote:

Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:


fyi - Later cherokees (including the Archer) have a large stabilator than the
earlier cherokees.


When does "later" start? The Arrow I fly is a 67.

The club's '73/74 Challenger, the first year with the stretched
fueslage and the year before they tapered the wing and called the bird
an archer has longer wings by a foot on each side than the 180D, and
similar inserts in the stabilator, though I'm not sure how wide they
are -- probably a foot each side as well.

The old T-hangar barely fits the Challenger, just a couple of inches
to spare, especially on the stabilator, while the '67 235 fits in
easily.

Don



 




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