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Old January 9th 07, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Default What does flying mean?

In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the
airplane, right?

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Old January 9th 07, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Default What does flying mean?

Recently, Jose posted:

In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the
airplane, right?

There are other efforts in this newsgroup to redefine what "flying" means.
;-)

However, I think your example takes its meaning from historic naval and/or
architectural usages, where one "flies" a sail or a superstructure. It
describes a method of suspension, so no motion is required of the item
being "flown".

Neil


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Old January 9th 07, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default What does flying mean?

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:10:05 GMT, Jose
wrote in :

In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the
airplane, right?

Jose


Is this a troll? :-)

It means there is no control surface; the entire elevator or rudder
moves to provide control, not just a portion of it, IMO.

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Old January 9th 07, 05:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Danny Deger
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Default What does flying mean?


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:10:05 GMT, Jose
wrote in :

In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the
airplane, right?

Jose


Is this a troll? :-)

It means there is no control surface; the entire elevator or rudder
moves to provide control, not just a portion of it, IMO.


I think you meant to say the "entire horizontal or vertical stabilizer
moves".

Danny Deger


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Old January 9th 07, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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Default What does flying mean?

Jose wrote:
In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the
airplane, right?


I always understood it to mean a one-piece stabilizer / elevator
assembly, like my Sundowner or many PA-28's. This is opposed to an
elevator hinged to the stabilizer.
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Old January 9th 07, 08:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques
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Default What does flying mean?

The term was originally coined by North American Aviation Company to
describe the new powered stabilator on their F86E. Prior to the E model, the
Sabre had a conventional horizontal stabilizer. The E had boosted controls
all around and an artificial sensing feedback into the stick that duplicated
normal stick forces for the pilot. Very innovative, and the harbinger of
things that came after. Made it much easier to control the 86 in pitch as
the shock wave going through the transonic region passed the stabilizer. No
elevator....no hinge to trap the shock wave....very smooth transonic
transition for the 86.
Your generic ole' Cherokee 140 has a flying tail........not boosted of
course...unless somebody tries to lift the airplane by the tail while
pushing it on the ground which is usually met by the owner of the bird with
threats of bodily harm and injury :-))
Dudley Henriques


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In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the airplane,
right?

Jose
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Old January 9th 07, 10:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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Default What does flying mean?

Typically refers to one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilator

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In the context of aircraft said to have a "flying tail", what does
"flying" mean? I mean, if the tail isn't flying, neither is the airplane,
right?

Jose
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