Preparing for a XC : Bathroom Breaks

BDS wrote:
One of my favorites was from a guy who used zip-lock baggies to urinate
into, which is not uncommon. He is one of the few who routinely used to
dispose of the bag in flight by way of the window vent. Well, one time he
threw the bag out and it hit the leading edge of the wing and exploded.
That wouldn't necessarily be all that bad except that this particular
sailplane had a nice naca type air inlet on the bottom surface of the wing
for the fresh air vent, which was routed so that it blew air on the pilot
from an outlet at the top of the panel. So, as he threw the bag out the
vent and it exploded against the leading edge of the wing he immediately got
a face full of his own urine. Nasty!



I expect he was ****ed.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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BDS wrote:
One of my favorites was from a guy who used zip-lock baggies to urinate
into, which is not uncommon. He is one of the few who routinely used to
dispose of the bag in flight by way of the window vent. Well, one time
he
threw the bag out and it hit the leading edge of the wing and exploded.
That wouldn't necessarily be all that bad except that this particular
sailplane had a nice naca type air inlet on the bottom surface of the
wing
for the fresh air vent, which was routed so that it blew air on the pilot
from an outlet at the top of the panel. So, as he threw the bag out the
vent and it exploded against the leading edge of the wing he immediately
got
a face full of his own urine. Nasty!



I expect he was ****ed.


on.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote

I expect he was ****ed.

I've always said that it is better to be ****ed off, than ****ed on. That
just about proves it! g
--
Jim in NC

On Jan 24, 9:54 pm, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
As you know, the Road to Hell is paved with good intentions. The wind hit the
bag and it exploded before he could drop it. The back seat got a pretty good
spray along with the side of the aircraft and (I assume) my friend. He didn't
give me a lot of details but suggested I not try it myself.

Now you've done it! You've brought back memories of my first flight
with a passenger 30 years ago. She became sick and we had no sick
sacks, only a paper cup. She filled it and I had to get rid of it. You
guessed it, I opened the window and attempted to dump it. Yuk! Never
again.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

On 1/25/2007 10:13:26 AM, "Gene Seibel" wrote:

Now you've done it! You've brought back memories of my first flight
with a passenger 30 years ago. She became sick and we had no sick
sacks, only a paper cup. She filled it and I had to get rid of it. You
guessed it, I opened the window and attempted to dump it. Yuk! Never
again.

Oh, man. That's worse than the stories of the inexperienced dumping one's
cremated remains from an aircraft.

--
Peter

"Peter R." wrote in message
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On 1/25/2007 10:13:26 AM, "Gene Seibel" wrote:

Now you've done it! You've brought back memories of my first flight
with a passenger 30 years ago. She became sick and we had no sick
sacks, only a paper cup. She filled it and I had to get rid of it. You
guessed it, I opened the window and attempted to dump it. Yuk! Never
again.

Oh, man. That's worse than the stories of the inexperienced dumping one's
cremated remains from an aircraft.

With my luck, my remains would be swirling around the cabin lavatory.

"TF" wrote in message
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I've mastered fuel management now the hardest part. How to manage mine
and my wife's bathroom breaks. Our trips are typically 3 to 3.5 hours but
our blatters don't always make it thus forci6ng a stop. Thats a big 30 min
addition to the trip. On my last filight I filed two flight plans and
then called ATC to open the next flight plan when we felt we could make it
all the way without the stop. Seemed to work.

Any suggestions on preflight preparations that have worked for others ?
No coffee before the flight ? No liquids xxx hours before leaving etc.
etc. Sort of like preparing for an operations.

Thanks.
Holding it in

I'm usually a two diet coke before going to work (or the airport) kinda guy,
but when I'm flying X/C I limit my intake to maybe 3/4 of a can, and make
sure that's an hour or more before departure so I can unload most of it at
the FBO prior to departure.

My airplane has a control stick and not a whole lot of room, so piddle packs
and/or a porta-john really are not options.

One of our routine trips is between Dallas TX and Atlanta. The airplane
will do it in 4 hours or less, but unless we're in a real hurry to get
someplace, we usually set down in Mississippi, just to stretch out and use
the bathroom. It makes for a more enjoyable flight than having to
figuratively cross your legs and pray that there isn't any turbulence for
the last 1/2 hour of the trip. Also, you can plan the stop for a field with
the services you desire.

Additionally, it is really futile to try and tough it out, then have to land
at some little armpit airport 30 minutes from home (after crossing your legs
for an hour) 'cause you realized that you didn't have a 4 hour bladder in
the first place...

Beyond that, the airplane has about 4.5 - 4.75 hours of fuel capacity, and I
feel a lot more comfortable planning to arrive at my destination with an
hour or more of fuel on board. Runways do get closed unexpectedly from time
to time, winds can drive you to alternate airfields, and there is always the
chance that you didn't get the last gallon or two into each of the tanks.

KB

TF, take no coffee or other diuretics for three hours before take off.
Drink water sparingly, but if thirsty aloft, drink some water.

You and your wife do not have wait until a flight to see if your
bladder endurance is what you want it to be. Go shopping and to a
movie, and call the start of the trip the ETD. From ETD minus 3 hours,
drink only water sparingly. Void before leaving to go shopping -- "I
don't have to go" is not an acceptable excuse.

Then go do your thing, have sips -- SIPS!!!!! -- of water from time to
time, and pay attention to how you both are feeling. See if you can get
to ETD plus 4 hours (it may take a time or two before you can do that.
This is an especially good practice because you'll be aware of what
you're trying to do, and it will make you more aware of your needs for
relief.

Try it a few times. Keep this in mind: you probably both go for many
hours when you're asleep. If, however, one or the other of you is
getting up every two or three hours at night, you'll just have to plan
shorter flight legs.

If these 'low and slow' flights work, do the same pre flight routine
for the real thing, void at the FBO before take off, and be confident
your personal tanks will not be full before the airplane's are getting
close to minimal reserves.

Good luck.

Oh, one other thing: don't try to be a hero. If the need is there, tell
ATC you want to land and do a personal weight and balance adjustment.
Too full a bladder IS a hazard to safe flight.


On Jan 24, 8:15 pm, "TF" wrote:
I've mastered fuel management now the hardest part. How to manage mine and
my wife's bathroom breaks. Our trips are typically 3 to 3.5 hours but our
blatters don't always make it thus forci6ng a stop. Thats a big 30 min
addition to the trip. On my last filight I filed two flight plans and then
called ATC to open the next flight plan when we felt we could make it all
the way without the stop. Seemed to work.

Any suggestions on preflight preparations that have worked for others ? No
coffee before the flight ? No liquids xxx hours before leaving etc. etc.
Sort of like preparing for an operations.

Thanks.
Holding it in

I had another thing worth sharing. In the hot summer time, I suggest
you get a couple of pint or half liter water bottles, fill them to
about 80%, then freeze them. Use them as your drinking water when
aloft. The thaw rate is often a nice moderator on how fast they'll
empty, they'll be cold for hours.

For golf I do that with Gater Aid or other sports drinks in liter
bottles -- walking hilly courses in hot weather is thirsty work. The
Army tells its members if they are doing hard work in the summer, that
if they are not ****ing they are not drinking enough. Thirst is NOT a
good measure of need in those circumstances.


On Jan 24, 10:03 pm, "Tony" wrote:
TF, take no coffee or other diuretics for three hours before take off.
Drink water sparingly, but if thirsty aloft, drink some water.

You and your wife do not have wait until a flight to see if your
bladder endurance is what you want it to be. Go shopping and to a
movie, and call the start of the trip the ETD. From ETD minus 3 hours,
drink only water sparingly. Void before leaving to go shopping -- "I
don't have to go" is not an acceptable excuse.

Then go do your thing, have sips -- SIPS!!!!! -- of water from time to
time, and pay attention to how you both are feeling. See if you can get
to ETD plus 4 hours (it may take a time or two before you can do that.
This is an especially good practice because you'll be aware of what
you're trying to do, and it will make you more aware of your needs for
relief.

Try it a few times. Keep this in mind: you probably both go for many
hours when you're asleep. If, however, one or the other of you is
getting up every two or three hours at night, you'll just have to plan
shorter flight legs.

If these 'low and slow' flights work, do the same pre flight routine
for the real thing, void at the FBO before take off, and be confident
your personal tanks will not be full before the airplane's are getting
close to minimal reserves.

Good luck.

Oh, one other thing: don't try to be a hero. If the need is there, tell
ATC you want to land and do a personal weight and balance adjustment.
Too full a bladder IS a hazard to safe flight.

On Jan 24, 8:15 pm, "TF" wrote:



I've mastered fuel management now the hardest part. How to manage mine and
my wife's bathroom breaks. Our trips are typically 3 to 3.5 hours but our
blatters don't always make it thus forci6ng a stop. Thats a big 30 min
addition to the trip. On my last filight I filed two flight plans and then
called ATC to open the next flight plan when we felt we could make it all
the way without the stop. Seemed to work.

Any suggestions on preflight preparations that have worked for others ? No
coffee before the flight ? No liquids xxx hours before leaving etc. etc.
Sort of like preparing for an operations.

Thanks.
Holding it in- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Tony writes:

For golf I do that with Gater Aid or other sports drinks in liter
bottles -- walking hilly courses in hot weather is thirsty work. The
Army tells its members if they are doing hard work in the summer, that
if they are not ****ing they are not drinking enough. Thirst is NOT a
good measure of need in those circumstances.

Thirst is reliable except for heavy, short-term exertion, especially
in warm weather, when one may lose water very quickly. But the Army
is right--as long as your bladder is filling every three hours or so,
you're not dehydrated. If you go all day without having to urinate,
you need to drink a lot more water.

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