SR-22 Crash, with a twist

On 2/27/2007 11:14:21 AM, "Viperdoc" wrote:

There is a Cirrus owner on our field who gained himself the nickname "super
pull up"- he would accelerate down the runway at low altitude after
rotating, and then do a high g chandelle type maneuver. This usually
occurred in front of a bunch of experienced warbird/aerobatic pilots, all of
whom weren't too impressed.

It must be the "low-time pilot" excitement in experiencing the increased
G-forces. The Cirrus that spun into the ground here in upstate NY back in
2002, killing both pilot/owners inside, was seen at a nearby airport 30
minutes before the crash performing the exact same maneuvers.

The NTSB accident report has a quote from a witness stating this fact.

--
Peter

Viperdoc writes:

Why does it seem like there's a disproportionate number of Cirrus flyers
making questionable flying decisions- losing control at high altitude and
popping the chute, taking off into low IMC after major maintenance, etc.

Many Cirrus owners are probably low-time pilots. Inexperienced pilots
represent the majority of GA accidents due to pilot error.

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On Feb 27, 11:01 am, "Doug" wrote:
Glassy water makes the pilot think he is higher than he actually is.
Numerous crashes from this effect.

True enough, but he shouldn't have been THAT close to the water's
surface to begin with IMHO. From what I've read here (admittedly my
only source) it sounds like this guy was trying to recreate the
Canadian SNJ waterskiing formation event.

Doug,

Glassy water makes the pilot think he is higher than he actually is.
Numerous crashes from this effect.


And that effect would account for a difference of (let's assume that
would have been a sensible altitude) 500 AGL and 0 AGL? You must be
joking. Glassy water can be a problem for landings with FLOAT planes.
The Cirrus isn't.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote:
And that effect would account for a difference of (let's assume that
would have been a sensible altitude) 500 AGL and 0 AGL? You must be
joking. Glassy water can be a problem for landings with FLOAT planes.
The Cirrus isn't.


Nonsense. They landed. Everybody lived. What's the problem? G




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Doug writes:

Glassy water makes the pilot think he is higher than he actually is.
Numerous crashes from this effect.

If they are looking at a houseboat, they have an excellent idea of where the
surface actually is. And if one of them said "watch the wheels," they knew
they weren't at 2000 feet.

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On Feb 27, 9:01 am, "Doug" wrote:
Glassy water makes the pilot think he is higher than he actually is.
Numerous crashes from this effect.

....true, but given the fact that the water level at Lake Powell is
down 100+ feet from its "normal" level, looking UP at the surrounding
terrain would give most people a clue that they were a tad low, don't
you think?

Except that in many parts of the lake, especially where house boats are
moored, the shoreline still rises gently from the new water level. It's
not all cliffs. Still no excuse for flying into the water, however.

wrote:


...true, but given the fact that the water level at Lake Powell is
down 100+ feet from its "normal" level, looking UP at the surrounding
terrain would give most people a clue that they were a tad low, don't
you think?

Kingfish wrote:
On Feb 27, 10:15 am, "Paul kgyy" wrote:
I hereby nominate him/them 2007 Candidate(s) for the Darwin Award.

Type of a/c is irrelevant in this case.

I second the nomination. Obviously this kind of stupidity can be
accomplished in any aircraft, but it makes me wonder if Cirrus should
add a "no stupid pilot tricks" clause to the purchase contract.



It's my guess his insurance company is not going to be amused.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
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I hereby nominate him/them 2007 Candidate(s) for the Darwin Award.

They don't qualify. One requirement is losing the ability to reproduce
(either by death or other means).