SeeYou Single Person License

snip A Driver's license is a totally different issue and not related
here. Go
buy MS and you can transfer the license /snip

That is not true. MS operating system retail licenses (not to be
confused with OEM licenses) require you to get an activation from MS,
usually over the Internet. This license is not transferable. It
enables you to move it from one PC to another but only by getting
another activation from MS, which they are not obligated to provide if
they feel you are abusing the license.

OEM licenses are not transferable, period!

2NO

Maybe you are right; let's test it. Buy the stuff
and the key, put it on your PC, and report what you
have done to Microsoft. Game?

At 20:54 09 May 2007, Jim Vincent wrote:

'Nyal Williams' wrote in message
...
At 19:42 09 May 2007, Jim Vincent wrote:

'Nyal Williams' wrote in message
...
'Apparently you did not read the licensing agreement
for your Microsoft software; it has the same provisions.
You are supposed to erase it before you sell or give
away your computer. You did not buy the software;
you paid for the privilege of using it; you bought
the disc it came on, but you rented the software encoded
there.


This is fine with me...that is a standard EULA. As
part of the sale, he
would remove SeeYou from his PC. Since he did not
receive a physical disc
(it is a download), he would give me the license key
specific to one user.

A license is personal and not transferable; try to
borrow or buy someone else's driver's license. Read
your agreement with Microsoft; read his agreement
with
SeeYou.


A Driver's license is a totally different issue and
not related here. Go
buy MS and you can transfer the license.

Jim Vincent wrote:
I was going to buy a copy of SeeYou from a friend since he uses Strepla for
his flight reviews. He contacted SeeYou, and they told him that the license
was specific to him only. My understanding of the US Uniform Commercial
Code does not allow for single user restraints down to a specific user, it
only allows for constrains as to the quantity of users. For the legal types
out there, what is the legality of designating a license to a specific
person?


Jim,

This type of license conforms with US law as well as with European law.
Caveat - I'm not a US lawyer, but am Professor of Electronic Commerce
Law in London and know enough US federal law (which is primarily what is
involved here) to be sure of my statement. You might find some loophole
in your State consumer law, but not in the Uniform Commercial Code.

Put yourself in the position of Naviter, trying to service a tiny world
market, and ask if they could control transferrable licenses well enough
to stay in business.

So I'd say that both the legality and morality are on their side, not yours.

Does a SeeYou license key work on a different computer
anyway? When I bought a laptop I couldn't get my
desktop SeeYou key to work on it and bought a second
license.

John Galloway


At 09:18 10 May 2007, Chris Reed wrote:
Jim Vincent wrote:
I was going to buy a copy of SeeYou from a friend
since he uses Strepla for
his flight reviews. He contacted SeeYou, and they
told him that the license
was specific to him only. My understanding of the
US Uniform Commercial
Code does not allow for single user restraints down
to a specific user, it
only allows for constrains as to the quantity of users.
For the legal types
out there, what is the legality of designating a license
to a specific
person?


Jim,

This type of license conforms with US law as well as
with European law.
Caveat - I'm not a US lawyer, but am Professor of Electronic
Commerce
Law in London and know enough US federal law (which
is primarily what is
involved here) to be sure of my statement. You might
find some loophole
in your State consumer law, but not in the Uniform
Commercial Code.

Put yourself in the position of Naviter, trying to
service a tiny world
market, and ask if they could control transferrable
licenses well enough
to stay in business.

So I'd say that both the legality and morality are
on their side, not yours.

My SeeYou key works on my desktop and laptop. Both are Dell Compters.

--
Hartley Falbaum
"John Galloway" wrote in message
...
Does a SeeYou license key work on a different computer
anyway? When I bought a laptop I couldn't get my
desktop SeeYou key to work on it and bought a second
license.

John Galloway


At 09:18 10 May 2007, Chris Reed wrote:
Jim Vincent wrote:
I was going to buy a copy of SeeYou from a friend
since he uses Strepla for
his flight reviews. He contacted SeeYou, and they
told him that the license
was specific to him only. My understanding of the
US Uniform Commercial
Code does not allow for single user restraints down
to a specific user, it
only allows for constrains as to the quantity of users.
For the legal types
out there, what is the legality of designating a license
to a specific
person?


Jim,

This type of license conforms with US law as well as
with European law.
Caveat - I'm not a US lawyer, but am Professor of Electronic
Commerce
Law in London and know enough US federal law (which
is primarily what is
involved here) to be sure of my statement. You might
find some loophole
in your State consumer law, but not in the Uniform
Commercial Code.

Put yourself in the position of Naviter, trying to
service a tiny world
market, and ask if they could control transferrable
licenses well enough
to stay in business.

So I'd say that both the legality and morality are
on their side, not yours.

John Galloway wrote:
Does a SeeYou license key work on a different computer
anyway? When I bought a laptop I couldn't get my
desktop SeeYou key to work on it and bought a second
license.
Licence transfers no problem - you do have to contact Naviter to get a key. My
software is on it's third PC. (and second upgrade)

Bruce

Hi John,

SeeYou keys are not tied to PC serial numbers. You can install it on as
many of your PCs as you like without any need for additional keys. The same
is true for SeeYou Mobile.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"John Galloway" wrote in message
...
Does a SeeYou license key work on a different computer
anyway? When I bought a laptop I couldn't get my
desktop SeeYou key to work on it and bought a second
license.

John Galloway


At 09:18 10 May 2007, Chris Reed wrote:
Jim Vincent wrote:
I was going to buy a copy of SeeYou from a friend
since he uses Strepla for
his flight reviews. He contacted SeeYou, and they
told him that the license
was specific to him only. My understanding of the
US Uniform Commercial
Code does not allow for single user restraints down
to a specific user, it
only allows for constrains as to the quantity of users.
For the legal types
out there, what is the legality of designating a license
to a specific
person?


Jim,

This type of license conforms with US law as well as
with European law.
Caveat - I'm not a US lawyer, but am Professor of Electronic
Commerce
Law in London and know enough US federal law (which
is primarily what is
involved here) to be sure of my statement. You might
find some loophole
in your State consumer law, but not in the Uniform
Commercial Code.

Put yourself in the position of Naviter, trying to
service a tiny world
market, and ask if they could control transferrable
licenses well enough
to stay in business.

So I'd say that both the legality and morality are
on their side, not yours.

Paul Remde wrote:
Hi John,

SeeYou keys are not tied to PC serial numbers. You can install it on as
many of your PCs as you like without any need for additional keys. The same
is true for SeeYou Mobile.

I think this is a very flexible, user-friendly method, since I can have
SeeYou on my PC for home use and on the laptop when I travel without any
hassle. I can have a copy of Mobile on my Ipaq 3835 that I normally use
in the glider, and a copy on my Ipaq 2215 that I use as a backup to the
3835 (the 2215 normally runs TomTom to direct my motorhome to the
nearest airport when the cu start popping!). Mobile isn't tied to a
particular vario serial number, either, so I can switch varios just by
switching a plug.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
* Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
* "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4
* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org