Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bob Moore writes:

Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight.

Why would that make a difference?

What they seem to be doing is minimizing the tilting of their heads,
just as motorcycle racers, ballet dancers, and ice skaters do.


You're an idiot.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:

Bob Moore writes:


Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight.


Why would that make a difference?

What they seem to be doing is minimizing the tilting of their heads, just as
motorcycle racers, ballet dancers, and ice skaters do.

Nope, during any sort of flight, turns, straight and level,
whatever, a motorcycle racer, ballet dancer, or an ice skater
would still sit with a straight back and neck if they want to
continue a respectable level of flight. Hell, I do software
and IT and I sit the same as they would during flight.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote:

Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight.

I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping
his/her head aligned with the horizon.

Laugh

- Andrew

On 2007-06-21 13:01:55 -0400, Andrew Gideon said:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote:

Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight.

I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping
his/her head aligned with the horizon.

Laugh

- Andrew

This may be seen in the bed scene in the "Exorcist" :-)
Dudley Henriques

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote:

Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight.

I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping
his/her head aligned with the horizon.

Laugh

- Andrew

Military style - according to an old P-51 combat WWII pilot.

They were taught to pick a point on the horizon and fly around it as a
training exercise. He flew me through several with virtual perfection.
Say a barrel roll to the left. With speed, turn about 45 deg. to the right,
pulling the nose up some 20 deg. and start the roll to the left. Rudder and
stick control as required to hold the nose equidistant from the point all
way around. Past vertical to knife-edge and begin right rudder for
coordinated turn 45 degrees back to straight and level. The point is
straight ahead. Obviously, he stared straight ahead thruout.

This is approximate, because after about 100 tries I never came close to
getting it right.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Bob Moore writes:

Head and body should remain perpendicular to the floor of the
cockpit. This comes naturally if the turn is coordinated.

Interesting. When you learn to ride a motorcycle, you're taught to keep your
head normal to the horizon in turns ... because turning your head with the
bike as you lean into a turn results in disorientation.

How relevant.

Next you want to tell us what you do in a sailboat?

Perhaps pilots would be less prone to disorientation if they kept their heads
normal to the horizon, even in turns (for instrument flight, this would mean
keeping one's head level with the horizon of the attitude indicator).

You really are terrified by the thought of disorientation, aren't you?

I note from in-cockpit videos of aerobatic pilots that they keep their heads
level with the horizon, not level with the aircraft.

Did you bother to note whether or not the manuever was cooridinated or
do you think all aerobatic manuevers are coordinated 100% of the time?

--
Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Bob Moore writes:

Head and body should remain perpendicular to the floor of the
cockpit. This comes naturally if the turn is coordinated.

Interesting. When you learn to ride a motorcycle, you're taught to
keep your head normal to the horizon in turns ... because turning your
head with the bike as you lean into a turn results in disorientation.

Yeah, lkike you'd ride a bike,


Bull**** boi




Bertie

In a previous article, Bertie the Bunyip said:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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Interesting. When you learn to ride a motorcycle, you're taught to
keep your head normal to the horizon in turns ... because turning your
head with the bike as you lean into a turn results in disorientation.

Yeah, lkike you'd ride a bike,

You think he could afford a car?


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In a previous article, Bertie the Bunyip said:
Mxsmanic wrote in
m:
Interesting. When you learn to ride a motorcycle, you're taught to
keep your head normal to the horizon in turns ... because turning
your
head with the bike as you lean into a turn results in
disorientation.

Yeah, lkike you'd ride a bike,

You think he could afford a car?

I can just see him on his ducati trying to find control+alt+delete as he
comes flying over the handlebars over the hood of some SUV



Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:


I note from in-cockpit videos of aerobatic pilots that they keep their heads
level with the horizon, not level with the aircraft.

I guess that explains why they decapitate themselves during a roll.