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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush, May, 1999 He's right. The limits to any person's freedom should be the freedoms of other persons and nothing more. That isn't what he was talking about. |
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![]() "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... That isn't what he was talking about. Ya think? |
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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: That isn't what he was talking about. Ya think? Yes. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
... How is the CIA supposed to know who they are eavesdropping on if ID isn't required to purchase the phone? :-) Don't worry. Your voiceprint is on file. |
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On 2007-06-17 08:27:16 -0700, "Vaughn Simon"
said: When Bush first floated the idea of a "Department of Homeland Security", just the name sounded Gestapo-ish enough to give me serious reservations. Now this? http://www.cbsnews.com:80/stories/20...n2939438.shtml "New Security Rules For Small Boats, Planes" Vaughn Yeah, right. You don't know the tenth part of it. A friend of mine is Jason Moulton, recently retired from the FBI. He was the guy who arrested Patty Hearst in his rookie year. They caught almost the whole group at once because they were all cashing and writing checks on the same account with the same name, but the signatures looked different. Now, if the FBI knew THAT in the early '70s, what do you suppose they know now? -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Our 'elected' (?!!?) leader of this country has basically turned this country into a place where our founding fathers would probably have taken the latter of Patrick Henry's options. Really? How is that, exactly? Where's my freedom to carry a gun for self-protection at all times, even on an airplane, or in NYC, or Washington, D.C? Where's my freedom to work hard and put food on my table without being forced to pay for someone else's? Where's my freedom to be treated equitably, no matter my income level, under the tax code? Where's my freedom to take sole responsibility for my own retirement, without having to contribute to someone else's? Where's my freedom to operate a smoking section in my restaurant? Even if George Bush has his secret agents outside my house tapping my phone, it hasn't resulted in any restriction of liberty at all. On the other hand, I'd be arrested for carrying a gun on an airplane. I'd be fined and eventually imprisoned for refusing to pay a higher tax rate to the IRS. I'd be fined and eventually imprisoned for operating a smoking section inside my restaurant, where smoking indoors has been banned (an increasing number of states/municipalities). I'd be fined and eventually imprisoned for refusing to participate in the government-run retirement system. None of these activities imposes on the freedoms of another at all, yet the laws that prohibit them do impose on my freedom. So, tell me again, what has George Bush done to take away my freedoms? JKG |
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On Jun 19, 4:13 pm, Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article , A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Our 'elected' (?!!?) leader of this country has basically turned this country into a place where our founding fathers would probably have taken the latter of Patrick Henry's options. Really? How is that, exactly? Where's my freedom to carry a gun for self-protection at all times, even on an airplane, or in NYC, or Washington, D.C? Where's my freedom to work hard and put food on my table without being forced to pay for someone else's? Where's my freedom to be treated equitably, no matter my income level, under the tax code? Where's my freedom to take sole responsibility for my own retirement, without having to contribute to someone else's? Where's my freedom to operate a smoking section in my restaurant? Even if George Bush has his secret agents outside my house tapping my phone, it hasn't resulted in any restriction of liberty at all. On the other hand, I'd be arrested for carrying a gun on an airplane. I'd be fined and eventually imprisoned for refusing to pay a higher tax rate to the IRS. I'd be fined and eventually imprisoned for operating a smoking section inside my restaurant, where smoking indoors has been banned (an increasing number of states/municipalities). I'd be fined and eventually imprisoned for refusing to participate in the government-run retirement system. None of these activities imposes on the freedoms of another at all, yet the laws that prohibit them do impose on my freedom. So, tell me again, what has George Bush done to take away my freedoms? JKG Military jets intercepting and arresting the pilot doing touch & goes at a sleepy town airport was unheard of until now. |
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:
Military jets intercepting and arresting the pilot doing touch & goes at a sleepy town airport was unheard of until now. I must have missed that story. Where did it happen? |
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Andrew Sarangan wrote: So, tell me again, what has George Bush done to take away my freedoms? JKG Military jets intercepting and arresting the pilot doing touch & goes at a sleepy town airport was unheard of until now. And where/when did this happen? Enlighten me. JKG |
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