What is "Air Force 7"?

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Say what!!! I'll say it would look funny,Tarver. Sections 40 and 41
are on the front end of a Boeing it includes the cockpit and back to
the E&E compartment. Worked on alot of Boeings never saw that one
maybe in your dreams.

Yes Frank, the nose of the 757 is grafted onto the 767 fuse. That is
how an
educated person can tell a 767 from a 757, even at a distance.

I guess Frank hasn't been on an airport in 20 years.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

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Tarver,I am a Maintenance Manager for a large aircraft leasing
company.I really work at an airport,go to one every day. I also work
on and around Boeing aircraft every day. I Have never seen a 757 nose
section grafted to a 767 fuselage. The type rating is common so the
internal layout of the cockpit is very similar. The structure is not
even close,if you grafted a 757 forward structure onto a 767 it would
look like an unfired 30-06 round. If you have a photo of a narrow body
757 section 40&41 grafted onto a wide body please post it. If not....
Frank M.Hitlaw,A&P Mechanic

Too bad tarver won't believe me when I tell him that
section 41 is the front. Guess he'll have to learn the hard way.
JK

I seem to remember it being all white or possibly light grey. It was
from a distance though.

It had the nose of a 757 or at least it looked like it. Kinda like a
beak rather than a nose.

If it is for VIP's why would they be here? The guy taking the lessons
said that he thought it had been doing touch and goes for several
days.

Also with Barksdale a short distance from here, I wonder why they
would be here.

I just figured it was a privately owned airplane until hearing the
AirForce 7 name.

Mary Shafer wrote:
B2431 wrote:

The church defines a canon as a law, rule or set of books depending
on how it is used.

In the Anglican (Episcopalian) church, a canon is a priest assigned
to a choir school, cathedral, or other establishment. They show up
in Golden Age mysteries a lot.

Mary, that is an *additional* meaning in the Anglican church.

Canons are variously the rules or folk who are supposed to take some
part in upholding the rules. :-)

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Say what!!! I'll say it would look funny,Tarver. Sections 40 and 41
are on the front end of a Boeing it includes the cockpit and back to
the E&E compartment. Worked on alot of Boeings never saw that one
maybe in your dreams.

Yes Frank, the nose of the 757 is grafted onto the 767 fuse. That is
how an
educated person can tell a 767 from a 757, even at a distance.

I guess Frank hasn't been on an airport in 20 years.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

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Tarver,I am a Maintenance Manager for a large aircraft leasing
company.I really work at an airport,go to one every day. I also work
on and around Boeing aircraft every day. I Have never seen a 757 nose
section grafted to a 767 fuselage. The type rating is common so the
internal layout of the cockpit is very similar. The structure is not
even close,if you grafted a 757 forward structure onto a 767 it would
look like an unfired 30-06 round. If you have a photo of a narrow body
757 section 40&41 grafted onto a wide body please post it. If not....
Frank M.Hitlaw,A&P Mechanic

Too bad tarver won't believe me when I tell him that
section 41 is the front. Guess he'll have to learn the hard way.
JK

Jim:

Is he still stuck on that section 40 thing? 747's have no section 40,
767's have no section 40, 737's have no section 40. It's section 41 on
all three.

BTW, section 41 on a 767 ends at FS 436 (between the third and fourth
pax window ).

Where does he dig this information up from?

Tom

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Say what!!! I'll say it would look funny,Tarver. Sections 40 and
41
are on the front end of a Boeing it includes the cockpit and back
to
the E&E compartment. Worked on alot of Boeings never saw that one
maybe in your dreams.

Yes Frank, the nose of the 757 is grafted onto the 767 fuse. That
is
how an
educated person can tell a 767 from a 757, even at a distance.

I guess Frank hasn't been on an airport in 20 years.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE


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++++
Tarver,I am a Maintenance Manager for a large aircraft leasing
company.I really work at an airport,go to one every day. I also work
on and around Boeing aircraft every day. I Have never seen a 757 nose
section grafted to a 767 fuselage. The type rating is common so the
internal layout of the cockpit is very similar. The structure is not
even close,if you grafted a 757 forward structure onto a 767 it would
look like an unfired 30-06 round. If you have a photo of a narrow body
757 section 40&41 grafted onto a wide body please post it. If not....
Frank M.Hitlaw,A&P Mechanic

Too bad tarver won't believe me when I tell him that
section 41 is the front. Guess he'll have to learn the hard way.
JK

Jim:

Is he still stuck on that section 40 thing? 747's have no section 40,
767's have no section 40, 737's have no section 40. It's section 41 on
all three.

Same with a DC-10.

BTW, section 41 on a 767 ends at FS 436 (between the third and fourth
pax window ).

Where does he dig this information up from?


I'm not sure I even want to ask. When he gives us Tarverisms like:
Yes Frank, the nose of the 757 is grafted onto the 767 fuse. That is
how an educated person can tell a 767 from a 757, even at a distance.
I guess Frank hasn't been on an airport in 20 years.

He doesn't realize that he's virtually handing victory to us in another
thread where he is proving to us that he does not know that 757s and 767s
have different types of instrument plumbing. (pitot tube vs. pitot/static
tube)

I just wish someone could get him to re-open his "autoland is illegal"
argument.
That was about the time I came in and it's been constant grins ever since.
JK

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Say what!!! I'll say it would look funny,Tarver. Sections 40 and 41
are on the front end of a Boeing it includes the cockpit and back to
the E&E compartment. Worked on alot of Boeings never saw that one
maybe in your dreams.

Yes Frank, the nose of the 757 is grafted onto the 767 fuse. That is
how an
educated person can tell a 767 from a 757, even at a distance.

I guess Frank hasn't been on an airport in 20 years.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++
Tarver,I am a Maintenance Manager for a large aircraft leasing
company.I really work at an airport,go to one every day. I also work
on and around Boeing aircraft every day. I Have never seen a 757 nose
section grafted to a 767 fuselage. The type rating is common so the
internal layout of the cockpit is very similar. The structure is not
even close,if you grafted a 757 forward structure onto a 767 it would
look like an unfired 30-06 round. If you have a photo of a narrow body
757 section 40&41 grafted onto a wide body please post it. If not....
Frank M.Hitlaw,A&P Mechanic

Too bad tarver won't believe me when I tell him that
section 41 is the front. Guess he'll have to learn the hard way.
JK

Jim:

Is he still stuck on that section 40 thing? 747's have no section 40,
767's have no section 40, 737's have no section 40. It's section 41 on
all three.

BTW, section 41 on a 767 ends at FS 436 (between the third and fourth
pax window ).

Where does he dig this information up from?

Tom
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Tom; I thought after I posted the follow up there is no section 40 on
any Boeing that I know about. Section 40 only exist in Tarvers fantasy
world so let's not confuse him with facts.
Frank;

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:32:19 +0100, Robert Briggs
wrote:

Mary Shafer wrote:
B2431 wrote:

The church defines a canon as a law, rule or set of books depending
on how it is used.

In the Anglican (Episcopalian) church, a canon is a priest assigned
to a choir school, cathedral, or other establishment. They show up
in Golden Age mysteries a lot.

Mary, that is an *additional* meaning in the Anglican church.

Canons are variously the rules or folk who are supposed to take some
part in upholding the rules. :-)

That's why mathematicians and engineers write things in canonical
form, too.

Mary

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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer