Military flight operations and the FAA

"B2431" wrote in message
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Tarver, why won't you explain about "pitot ports?"

That would just help you lie better later, Dan.

So, what did you do in the Air Force? The avionics answer is bull****, as
that is not how the Airforce works and you don't even have a grasp of the
most basic air data.

(B2431) wrote:

Was this the 12 and out job you had, or did you actually do the complete
20,Dan?

So Dan, with all that experiance, how could you not know what a pitot tube
is? I can accept the idea that Knoyle is just a village idiot, but
certainly you should know better.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

Tarver, in order to retire I had to do 20. My AFSC didn't allow for early
retirement in my pay grade. Besides that I was already at about 18 or 19 when
the came out with the 15 year retirement.

I have more than once explained to you what pitot and pitot-static tubes are.
You, on the other hand, have said "pitot ports" have replaced pitot tubes on
transport type aircraft. You have been asked several times by people other than
me to explain what a "pitot port" is. The fact you respond with abuse instead
of proving your assertion is proof enough to me that you have no case.

Let's assume someone decides to install a "pitot port." A port similar to a
static port, flush to the skin with one or more holes, would never sense pitot
pressure on any surface of the aircraft due to airflow. This includes the
furthest forward part of the nose. Now, if you wish to use this "port" you have
to move it out of the the boundary layer you need to extend it forward a couple
of inches. Hey, guess what? You now have a pitot tube. Wow, what a discovery!

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Well that's the end of the argument. Well done sir! Thank God.

Praise be!

Grantland

"B2431" wrote in message
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"B2431" wrote in message
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Tarver, why won't you explain about "pitot ports?"

That would just help you lie better later, Dan.

So, what did you do in the Air Force? The avionics answer is bull****,
as
that is not how the Airforce works and you don't even have a grasp of the
most basic air data.

I gave you my first AFSC in aircraft maintenance: 325X1. I thought you
might
know what it was: avionics instruments systems. This included flight,
navigation, fuel and engine instruments. In the 1980s they added INS and
autopilot. I was also crewchief qualified on the F-4E.

Was this the 12 and out job you had, or did you actually do the complete
20,Dan?

So Dan, with all that experiance, how could you not know what a pitot tube
is? I can accept the idea that Knoyle is just a village idiot, but
certainly you should know better.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

Was this the 12 and out job you had, or did you actually do the complete
20,Dan?

So Dan, with all that experiance, how could you not know what a pitot tube
is? I can accept the idea that Knoyle is just a village idiot, but
certainly you should know better.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

Tarver, in order to retire I had to do 20. My AFSC didn't allow for early
retirement in my pay grade. Besides that I was already at about 18 or 19 when
the came out with the 15 year retirement.

I have more than once explained to you what pitot and pitot-static tubes are.
You, on the other hand, have said "pitot ports" have replaced pitot tubes on
transport type aircraft. You have been asked several times by people other than
me to explain what a "pitot port" is. The fact you respond with abuse instead
of proving your assertion is proof enough to me that you have no case.

Let's assume someone decides to install a "pitot port." A port similar to a
static port, flush to the skin with one or more holes, would never sense pitot
pressure on any surface of the aircraft due to airflow. This includes the
furthest forward part of the nose. Now, if you wish to use this "port" you have
to move it out of the the boundary layer you need to extend it forward a couple
of inches. Hey, guess what? You now have a pitot tube. Wow, what a discovery!

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Dave Holford wrote:



B2431 wrote:

Was this the 12 and out job you had, or did you actually do the complete
20,Dan?

So Dan, with all that experiance, how could you not know what a pitot tube
is? I can accept the idea that Knoyle is just a village idiot, but
certainly you should know better.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

Tarver, in order to retire I had to do 20. My AFSC didn't allow for early
retirement in my pay grade. Besides that I was already at about 18 or 19 when
the came out with the 15 year retirement.

I have more than once explained to you what pitot and pitot-static tubes are.
You, on the other hand, have said "pitot ports" have replaced pitot tubes on
transport type aircraft. You have been asked several times by people other than
me to explain what a "pitot port" is. The fact you respond with abuse instead
of proving your assertion is proof enough to me that you have no case.

Let's assume someone decides to install a "pitot port." A port similar to a
static port, flush to the skin with one or more holes, would never sense pitot
pressure on any surface of the aircraft due to airflow. This includes the
furthest forward part of the nose. Now, if you wish to use this "port" you have
to move it out of the the boundary layer you need to extend it forward a couple
of inches. Hey, guess what? You now have a pitot tube. Wow, what a discovery!

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


Dan

It is a total waste of time trying to talk sense to Tarver. He lives in
his own little world where the laws of physics exist only in his tiny
little head.

It is unfortunate he will not be able to understand your lucid
explanation of how things really work.

He used to be entertaining, but lately has become a typical old bore.

Regards,
Dave

Precisely, Dan explained the Pitot system well and accurately,
Dave explained JT well and accurately too. JT's just a ~gentle
troll you know (by his own admission a couple of years ago)
--

-Gord.

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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Precisely, Dan explained the Pitot system well and accurately,

Dan described a pitot static system, but he doesn't know what a pitot tube
is.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE
Electrical Engineer.

"Dave Holford" wrote in message
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It seems Holford doesn't know what a pitot tube is either.

Our idiots have formed a false consensus.

Tarver Engineering wrote:

It seems Holford doesn't know what a pitot tube is either.


You have no idea how difficult it is to not make the obvious response.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

It seems Holford doesn't know what a pitot tube is either.

You have no idea how difficult it is to not make the obvious response.

Your ignorance is being broadcast worldwide, Holford. Let us in on your
little joke.

No! Don't!

Let him stew!

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news:CAW0b.212110$Ho3.27606@sccrnsc03...
"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

It seems Holford doesn't know what a pitot tube is either.

You have no idea how difficult it is to not make the obvious response.

Your ignorance is being broadcast worldwide, Holford. Let us in on your
little joke.

No! Don't!

Let him stew!

I am not going to stew about the trolls of ram.