Wanted - Long EZ and Q2 plans

In article , writes:


OK. I have a set of drawings for the Dyke Delta JD2. I did
not buy these plans, they were handed to me after the
purchaser died. Since I have no contract with the designer,
are you saying that I am free to copy and sell as many
prints as I feel like?

Scott McQ



I have a book that I bought second hand, do I have the right to publish the
book because I didn't buy it from the original publisher? NO, you don't
own
the rights to publish the boook or the plans, contract or no contract.

PS: I talked with John Dyke at Oshkosh a couple of weeks back and I suspect
he
would take a real dim view of your efforts as well.

Legally he could refer to the Delta plans and build his own airplane that
looks
exactly like a Delta in every way down to the last rivet, then write his own
plans about how to build an airplane just like his, so long as he didn't use
anything from the Delta plans. It wouldn't be an ethical thing to do, but it
would be legal.

Copyright doesn't protect an idea, it protects the expression of that idea
set
down in tangible form. It's a thin, blurry line.



When you finish that knock off plane you have just crossed the thin blurry line
since it is now in tangible form. Then again, that was not the question. The
question was would he be free to copy and sell the plans. The answer remains
NO.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

In article ,
(Jay) writes:


We're going through this right now with CDs. There was a time when
people din't have the means to make CD (or records for that matter).
The record company served a usefull purpose- making vinale records,
but now less and less people need that service- so they're going to
the law books to try to extend the life of the buggy whip
manufacturers.



Its not the CD manufacturers who are raising hell, its the publishers and the
recording artists who are being screwed by the illegal copies of CD's. Its one
thing for me to make a copy of my CD for personal use and protecting the
original from damage, its quite another to copy it to give to all my friends or
share the contents with a million other people on the internet for free. That
is denying the rightful proceeds to the creators of the work.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

In article , Todd Pattist
writes:


And "unethical" is certainly debatable. We have a large set
of intellectual property laws that protect "writings" like
the plans (via copyright) and devices, like the aircraft
(via design patents and utility patents, etc.). In order to
use those laws, you need to meet certain criteria. To get a
patent, you need to show that your invention is sufficiently
different from what's already out there that it's worthy. If
the design cannot meet that criteria, or the designer
decides not to make the public disclosure required to obtain
a patent, and no other IP law applies, then the law protects
those who want to copy.

Copying of improvements advances civilization and is
praiseworthy. Patent laws are not there to prevent copying.
They are there to encourage improvements that advance
civilization by granting a limited monopoly in exchange for
disclosure of the improvement to the public and
authorization to use the improvement after the limited
period of protection.
Todd Pattist
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Said the thief as he held the gun to the bankers head.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

In article , Todd Pattist
writes:


That you don't have a clue about what you are saying.

If you can't explain your point and can't provide any
support for it, you're not going to convince anyone.
Computer software is not subject to design patent
protection. Aircraft designs are. Software is not normally
provided to customers in human readable format (it's source
code). Aircraft building plans are human readable. Software
is freely transferrable to another user for reuse. You
allege that aircraft plans have contract language that
forbids this.


Wrong on all points.

I ask again why you think computer software shrink-wrap
licenses are similar to the contract language you say is
found on most aircraft plans.
Todd Pattist
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Go back and read the post that I responded to you lame brain idiot. I don't
have time to try to teach you what you clearly don't want to learn.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)