New GA Security System at KFRG

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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The only reference that should be made to Massport is wrt how not
to do it.

Somehow Massport can't stop losing money when charging hangar rates
almost twice those at other MA airports. This is the organization you
want
having any involvement in running an airport?

Are you based at BED? Republic airport's mgmt keeps referring to them as the
working model. It would be good to get a point of view by someone with a
view "under the hood" so to speak. FRG is run by the same folks the run
Teterboro so the fear is that small aircraft will be methodically pushed out
in favor of biz jets.

Marco

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:04:56 -0500, Peter Clark wrote:

That makes NY
and NJ with massport facilities in MA that I know of that have the 'two
lock' rule. Course, door and ignition doesn't seem to count as two
locks, but I digress.

In NJ, at least and at least for the moment, door and ignition does count
as two.

- Andrew

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:26:10 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gideon
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:04:56 -0500, Peter Clark wrote:

That makes NY
and NJ with massport facilities in MA that I know of that have the 'two
lock' rule. Course, door and ignition doesn't seem to count as two
locks, but I digress.

In NJ, at least and at least for the moment, door and ignition does count
as two.

Interesting. Last time I was at MMU they made me put a prop lock on a
182.

On Nov 8, 10:50 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

About to flip the switch in a few weeks.

Marco

Another East Coast nervous disorder law... thank god I live in Idaho,
all we have here is a gay old senator with happy feet.

In fact, Larry has a music video out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys9xn60IBXA

Another East Coast nervous disorder law... thank god I live in Idaho,
all we have here is a gay old senator with happy feet.

I look around and I do not recognize my country any more... What a
bunch of sheep...
Don't take me wrong, I do not want religious whackos and terrorists to
injure anyone - but I am not willing to surrender my copy of the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights so that the sheeple will feel a
little safer...
They act as though one whacko blowing a bridge, or taking a plane out
of the sky will be the end of the country and of western
civilization..
Look, in the dispute over states rights versus the federal government
we lost 620,000 people... General Hood lost 6,000 men in two hours at
Franklin, Tennessee...
The people of this country today have no guts, period! and damned few
brains

denny

Denny wrote:

Look, in the dispute over states rights versus the federal government
we lost 620,000 people... General Hood lost 6,000 men in two hours at
Franklin, Tennessee...
The people of this country today have no guts, period! and damned few
brains

denny

The problem Denny is the pro states rights side lost that war. It's been
going down hill since.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:42:46 -0500, Peter Clark wrote:

In NJ, at least and at least for the moment, door and ignition does
count as two.

Interesting. Last time I was at MMU they made me put a prop lock on a
182.

Is it possible that MMU has some extra requirement? Or perhaps "they"
misunderstood (or never asked about) the rule. Certainly, I see no great
number (in fact, none as far as I've noticed at least on the RN ramp) or
prop locks "next door" at CDW.

- Andrew

Marco Leon wrote:
"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
The only reference that should be made to Massport is wrt how not
to do it.

Somehow Massport can't stop losing money when charging hangar rates
almost twice those at other MA airports. This is the organization you
want
having any involvement in running an airport?

Are you based at BED? Republic airport's mgmt keeps referring to them as the
working model. It would be good to get a point of view by someone with a
view "under the hood" so to speak. FRG is run by the same folks the run
Teterboro so the fear is that small aircraft will be methodically pushed out
in favor of biz jets.

Marco


I knew Teterboro is run by the Port Authority of NY/NJ, I was unaware
that the same runs FRG.

Farmingdale is (was) a great field with at least one decent FBO. LG
Hanscom is a great field severely hampered by an overzealous and
incompetent state port authority owner. It would be a terrible shame to
see Farmingdale adopt the stupid (and largely useless) measures that
Hanscom has done. This includes the propeller locks (which do nothing
except risk damage by wind and inexperience pilots), and very expensive
badges (don't have a badge? you can be escorted. Have a badge but it is
somewhere else? you can't be escorted on pain of many $$ thousands of
dollar fines.) It is also amusing that at BOS the same Mass Port
Authority requires GA people to go through metal detectors to get to
their GA plane.

Last time I checked, Massport wanted a substantial fee and your social
security # to get one of their badges. I would never trust my social
security number to those clowns. The port authority is actually a very
large collection of patronage hacks that do not know the difference
between effective measures and pointless burdens on the damned
citizens/taxpayers. I have heard that Mass Port tries to enforce their
rules (as a quasi-state agency, they can make their own legal
regulations) on the military / Air Force ramp via the state police. I
was unaware that any tinhat state agency had jurisdiction on military
property.

This is sad news that anyone would hold Mass Port Authority to be a
"model" for anything, except a case study in incompetence.