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Old November 17th 07, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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Hmm, neverr really got any action out of my bear!
Roscoe must have with that lion, though. Gilmore,after his
sponsers, of course.

Bertie

Come to think of it, almost every picture I ever saw of Turner with
Gilmore, he was smiling :-))

Those guys were like rock stars back then.
I think he had to give Gilmore to a zoo when he got to be to big to
manage.


Bertie

I remember reading something to that effect I think, way back in the
stone age someplace. Ole' Roscoe must have been quite a fellow.
Those early pilots really had what it took. Flying some of those old
crates was taking your life in you hands even before you made it to
pattern altitude.
I think it was Andy Sephton, check pilot for the Shuttleworth
collection
who said he considers the Bleriot monoplane one of the trickist
airplanes he has ever flown.


I've flown a model of one and it was a handful. Minimal power and
massive drag and the wing warping made life very interesting as well. On
top of that, the engine overheated and died after about ten minutes of
flight!
But the contraptions that Roscoe was flying were truly scary on a whole
'nuther level. That Wedell Williams with the Hornet must have been
positively evil to fly. And of course he crashed that airplane earlier
due to carb ice.


Bertie

Every now and then at some of our shows I'd get a chance to sit down and
jaw awhile with the Formula 1 race pilots. Steve Whittman was at a few
of these ("war stories" gab sessions) Steve had some amazing stuff from
the "old days", and would have us all laughing like idiots telling us
about flying some of the old planes.
I actually got a taste of what he was talking about when I flew a
Cassutt race plane one afternoon. Actually, you don't really FLY a
Cassutt, you WEAR a Cassutt :-) Even the Pitts wasn't as sensitive on
the controls as that beast. But it was great fun and I caught on quickly
after it scared the s**t out of me on take off. I rotated and went to
100 feet before I could ease off the tiny bit of back pressure I had
used to do that :-))
In my opinion, the guys who flew those early planes were REAL pilots!!
:-))

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Old November 17th 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Every now and then at some of our shows I'd get a chance to sit down
and jaw awhile with the Formula 1 race pilots. Steve Whittman was at a
few of these ("war stories" gab sessions) Steve had some amazing stuff
from the "old days", and would have us all laughing like idiots
telling us about flying some of the old planes.
I actually got a taste of what he was talking about when I flew a
Cassutt race plane one afternoon. Actually, you don't really FLY a
Cassutt, you WEAR a Cassutt :-) Even the Pitts wasn't as sensitive on
the controls as that beast. But it was great fun and I caught on
quickly after it scared the s**t out of me on take off. I rotated and
went to 100 feet before I could ease off the tiny bit of back pressure
I had used to do that :-))
In my opinion, the guys who flew those early planes were REAL pilots!!
:-))


You were lucky to have met him. I'd seen him at Oshkosh and sun n fun a few
times, but wasn't part ofthe elite that got to meet him.
Any of those things had to be a handful. the fuselage area, even on the
inline engined ones, was vast ahead of the CG and the tail surfaces tiny.
Add that to some fairly sensitive wings and pilots with fairly limited
experience in low performance airplanes and it's a wonder that any of them
survived! Lots didn't, of course.


Bertie
  #23  
Old November 17th 07, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Every now and then at some of our shows I'd get a chance to sit down
and jaw awhile with the Formula 1 race pilots. Steve Whittman was at a
few of these ("war stories" gab sessions) Steve had some amazing stuff
from the "old days", and would have us all laughing like idiots
telling us about flying some of the old planes.
I actually got a taste of what he was talking about when I flew a
Cassutt race plane one afternoon. Actually, you don't really FLY a
Cassutt, you WEAR a Cassutt :-) Even the Pitts wasn't as sensitive on
the controls as that beast. But it was great fun and I caught on
quickly after it scared the s**t out of me on take off. I rotated and
went to 100 feet before I could ease off the tiny bit of back pressure
I had used to do that :-))
In my opinion, the guys who flew those early planes were REAL pilots!!
:-))


You were lucky to have met him. I'd seen him at Oshkosh and sun n fun a few
times, but wasn't part ofthe elite that got to meet him.


Elite? Not THIS bunch!! More like us being us covered from head to foot
with engine oil and hydraulic fluid and all of dying for a cold coke
with Whittman the only guy there with enough loose change for the
battered old coke machine in the back of the hangar:-))

Any of those things had to be a handful. the fuselage area, even on the
inline engined ones, was vast ahead of the CG and the tail surfaces tiny.
Add that to some fairly sensitive wings and pilots with fairly limited
experience in low performance airplanes and it's a wonder that any of them
survived! Lots didn't, of course.


Bertie


Yeah, true enough. Even Whittman came to a tragic end after all he had
accomplished and done. I seem to recall hearing both he and his wife
died when the fabric failed on their Tailwind some years back.


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Old November 17th 07, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Every now and then at some of our shows I'd get a chance to sit down
and jaw awhile with the Formula 1 race pilots. Steve Whittman was at
a few of these ("war stories" gab sessions) Steve had some amazing
stuff from the "old days", and would have us all laughing like
idiots telling us about flying some of the old planes.
I actually got a taste of what he was talking about when I flew a
Cassutt race plane one afternoon. Actually, you don't really FLY a
Cassutt, you WEAR a Cassutt :-) Even the Pitts wasn't as sensitive
on the controls as that beast. But it was great fun and I caught on
quickly after it scared the s**t out of me on take off. I rotated
and went to 100 feet before I could ease off the tiny bit of back
pressure I had used to do that :-))
In my opinion, the guys who flew those early planes were REAL
pilots!!
:-))


You were lucky to have met him. I'd seen him at Oshkosh and sun n fun
a few times, but wasn't part ofthe elite that got to meet him.


Elite? Not THIS bunch!! More like us being us covered from head to
foot with engine oil and hydraulic fluid and all of dying for a cold
coke with Whittman the only guy there with enough loose change for the
battered old coke machine in the back of the hangar:-))


You know what i mean...


Any of those things had to be a handful. the fuselage area, even on
the inline engined ones, was vast ahead of the CG and the tail
surfaces tiny. Add that to some fairly sensitive wings and pilots
with fairly limited experience in low performance airplanes and it's
a wonder that any of them survived! Lots didn't, of course.


Bertie


Yeah, true enough. Even Whittman came to a tragic end after all he had
accomplished and done. I seem to recall hearing both he and his wife
died when the fabric failed on their Tailwind some years back.



Yes, hard to believe that such an experienced builder could make such an
elementery mistake. He was using some sort of tight weave nylon
covering, and , as you did with cotton in the past, just doped it onto
the wood sheeted wing of his tailwind. It bubbled up in flight, not
having properly adhered to the surface.
this happened to a friend of my father's in a Cessna Bobcat many years
ago. His son and he made a repair and then went flying as soon as the
dope dried. They were alarmed to see a large bubble forming in the upper
surface of the wing as they motored along.
They got away with it though..


Bertie
  #25  
Old November 17th 07, 08:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:


Every now and then at some of our shows I'd get a chance to sit down
and jaw awhile with the Formula 1 race pilots. Steve Whittman was at
a few of these ("war stories" gab sessions) Steve had some amazing
stuff from the "old days", and would have us all laughing like
idiots telling us about flying some of the old planes.
I actually got a taste of what he was talking about when I flew a
Cassutt race plane one afternoon. Actually, you don't really FLY a
Cassutt, you WEAR a Cassutt :-) Even the Pitts wasn't as sensitive
on the controls as that beast. But it was great fun and I caught on
quickly after it scared the s**t out of me on take off. I rotated
and went to 100 feet before I could ease off the tiny bit of back
pressure I had used to do that :-))
In my opinion, the guys who flew those early planes were REAL
pilots!!
:-))
You were lucky to have met him. I'd seen him at Oshkosh and sun n fun
a few times, but wasn't part ofthe elite that got to meet him.

Elite? Not THIS bunch!! More like us being us covered from head to
foot with engine oil and hydraulic fluid and all of dying for a cold
coke with Whittman the only guy there with enough loose change for the
battered old coke machine in the back of the hangar:-))


You know what i mean...


Any of those things had to be a handful. the fuselage area, even on
the inline engined ones, was vast ahead of the CG and the tail
surfaces tiny. Add that to some fairly sensitive wings and pilots
with fairly limited experience in low performance airplanes and it's
a wonder that any of them survived! Lots didn't, of course.


Bertie

Yeah, true enough. Even Whittman came to a tragic end after all he had
accomplished and done. I seem to recall hearing both he and his wife
died when the fabric failed on their Tailwind some years back.






Yes, hard to believe that such an experienced builder could make such an
elementery mistake. He was using some sort of tight weave nylon
covering, and , as you did with cotton in the past, just doped it onto
the wood sheeted wing of his tailwind. It bubbled up in flight, not
having properly adhered to the surface.


A real shame. Such a sad end for such a talented guy. If anything, what
happened should serve as a constant reminder of the inherent dangers
involved in aviation and that no matter how long we've been in it, and
no matter how much we know and have experienced, it can rise up and bite
us in the ass at the exact instant we let our duard down and become
complacent.
I know it was that way for me anyway. I never once lost that slight
"edge" of awareness that danger was there with me wherever I went.
This "feeling" actually got stronger as the years went by.
I've always felt that this single thing is what managed to get me here,
sitting in the den retired with it all behind me, but SAFELY behind me
:-))
this happened to a friend of my father's in a Cessna Bobcat many years
ago. His son and he made a repair and then went flying as soon as the
dope dried. They were alarmed to see a large bubble forming in the upper
surface of the wing as they motored along.
They got away with it though..


Bertie


Ah yes, the old UC78 Bamboo Bomber??? I still remember Sky King from
when I was a bit "younger". Never got to fly one, but heard it was a
fine old airplane indeed.


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Old November 17th 07, 09:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Kingfish wrote:
On Nov 15, 2:37 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

I'm with you Jay. I have a Brietling vintage pilot's chronograph sitting
upstairs unused now for over 40 years. It's heavy, I have to wind it,
and it's always a possible loss of thousands of dollars if misplaced or
stolen.
Pilots just don't need these anchors on their wrist any more; not with
modern time technology. I have a digital that keeps absolutely perfect
time. I think it cost me 20 bucks years ago.
DH


But Dudley, the fancy "pilot watch" is part of the uniform (costume?)
You can't call yourself a real pilot if you don't have The Watch. You
know, one of those expensive, multi-faced hunks of unobtanium with a
built in ELT that makes women swoon and lesser pilots envious.


That's what the stuffed Teddy Bear I always carried with me was for.
:-))


Teddy Bears!!?? We don't need no stinkin' teddy bears!!


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Old November 17th 07, 09:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
news
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Clay Lacy, movie photographer, and race pilot, used to carry a HUGE Snoopy
Dog with him stuffed in the back of his Omni Insurance Co.sponsored
Mustang. Girls loved that dog!! Got me a BEAR!!! Girls love bears better
than dogs!! :-))


I was going to carry a gigantic beaver, but my wife threatened me bodily...


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Old November 17th 07, 09:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt W. Barrow wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Kingfish wrote:
On Nov 15, 2:37 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:

I'm with you Jay. I have a Brietling vintage pilot's chronograph sitting
upstairs unused now for over 40 years. It's heavy, I have to wind it,
and it's always a possible loss of thousands of dollars if misplaced or
stolen.
Pilots just don't need these anchors on their wrist any more; not with
modern time technology. I have a digital that keeps absolutely perfect
time. I think it cost me 20 bucks years ago.
DH

But Dudley, the fancy "pilot watch" is part of the uniform (costume?)
You can't call yourself a real pilot if you don't have The Watch. You
know, one of those expensive, multi-faced hunks of unobtanium with a
built in ELT that makes women swoon and lesser pilots envious.

That's what the stuffed Teddy Bear I always carried with me was for.
:-))


Teddy Bears!!?? We don't need no stinkin' teddy bears!!


Speak for yourself!! That darn bear attracted more gorgeous women than I
could shake a stick at. I mean it was absolutely"cruel" how helpless and
totally in my power and under my manly spell these beauties became when
they saw the bear. YES SIR!!!....he was all powerfull....all
potent......and girls swooned at the very sight of him. Mothers would
raise their hands and cover the eyes of their beauty queen daughters
lest they cast a chance glance upon his furry face.
He was everywhere.....a furry legend in his own time.
So powerful was his magic spell, that throughout the air show and flight
test kingdom, he was simply known and referred to reverently as,
"The Bear"!!!!

Nuff said. My wife has forbidded me to discuss the bear with you any
further lest you become enchanted and have to go out tonight looking for
your own Bear!!!!!



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Old November 17th 07, 11:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:


Every now and then at some of our shows I'd get a chance to sit
down and jaw awhile with the Formula 1 race pilots. Steve Whittman
was at a few of these ("war stories" gab sessions) Steve had some
amazing stuff from the "old days", and would have us all laughing
like idiots telling us about flying some of the old planes.
I actually got a taste of what he was talking about when I flew a
Cassutt race plane one afternoon. Actually, you don't really FLY a
Cassutt, you WEAR a Cassutt :-) Even the Pitts wasn't as sensitive
on the controls as that beast. But it was great fun and I caught
on quickly after it scared the s**t out of me on take off. I
rotated and went to 100 feet before I could ease off the tiny bit
of back pressure I had used to do that :-))
In my opinion, the guys who flew those early planes were REAL
pilots!!
:-))
You were lucky to have met him. I'd seen him at Oshkosh and sun n
fun a few times, but wasn't part ofthe elite that got to meet him.
Elite? Not THIS bunch!! More like us being us covered from head to
foot with engine oil and hydraulic fluid and all of dying for a cold
coke with Whittman the only guy there with enough loose change for
the battered old coke machine in the back of the hangar:-))


You know what i mean...


Any of those things had to be a handful. the fuselage area, even on
the inline engined ones, was vast ahead of the CG and the tail
surfaces tiny. Add that to some fairly sensitive wings and pilots
with fairly limited experience in low performance airplanes and
it's a wonder that any of them survived! Lots didn't, of course.


Bertie
Yeah, true enough. Even Whittman came to a tragic end after all he
had accomplished and done. I seem to recall hearing both he and his
wife died when the fabric failed on their Tailwind some years back.






Yes, hard to believe that such an experienced builder could make such
an elementery mistake. He was using some sort of tight weave nylon
covering, and , as you did with cotton in the past, just doped it
onto the wood sheeted wing of his tailwind. It bubbled up in flight,
not having properly adhered to the surface.


A real shame. Such a sad end for such a talented guy. If anything,
what happened should serve as a constant reminder of the inherent
dangers involved in aviation and that no matter how long we've been in
it, and no matter how much we know and have experienced, it can rise
up and bite us in the ass at the exact instant we let our duard down
and become complacent.
I know it was that way for me anyway. I never once lost that slight
"edge" of awareness that danger was there with me wherever I went.
This "feeling" actually got stronger as the years went by.
I've always felt that this single thing is what managed to get me
here, sitting in the den retired with it all behind me, but SAFELY
behind me
:-))


Yeah,every once in a while I learn something that is so big and so
fundamental that it frightens me that I'd been flying around in
ignorance of it for so long and worse, makes me wonder what else I might
be flying around not knowing..

this happened to a friend of my father's in a Cessna Bobcat many
years ago. His son and he made a repair and then went flying as soon
as the dope dried. They were alarmed to see a large bubble forming in
the upper surface of the wing as they motored along.
They got away with it though..


Bertie


Ah yes, the old UC78 Bamboo Bomber??? I still remember Sky King from
when I was a bit "younger". Never got to fly one, but heard it was a
fine old airplane indeed.


Yeah, not many left now. A buddy of mine nearly bought one with his
brother when they were both fairly young, but they walked away from it
because of the daunting task of rebuidling the wing. The friend of my
dad's from the story had sold his by the time I'd gotten into his
neighbothood, but I did get a ride in his Apache. My first in a light
twin.

Bertie


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Old November 17th 07, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
news
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Clay Lacy, movie photographer, and race pilot, used to carry a HUGE
Snoopy Dog with him stuffed in the back of his Omni Insurance
Co.sponsored Mustang. Girls loved that dog!! Got me a BEAR!!! Girls
love bears better than dogs!! :-))


I was going to carry a gigantic beaver, but my wife threatened me
bodily...



I doubt you could fit Jay into your flight case.. (think about it)

Bertie

 




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