RAF?

It's none of the above. The United States takes the attitude that
citizenship comes with residence, not bloodline. Britain (and I think
most European countries) take the opposite view.

Britain's nationality law is primarily based on place of
birth (a legal concept known as jus soli), not on ancestry
(jus sanguinis).

Prior to 1983, birth in the UK, would confer British nationality.
Since 1983, a person born in the UK would be British only
if a parent was British OR if the parent was "settled" in the UK.

Settled means ordinarily resident in the UK without being
subject to immigration restrictions, and this provision was
implementeed in order to provide for British nationality by
birth in the UK, to the children of non-British
legal residents of the UK as well as the children of British
citizens, but to stop visitors from coming to the UK solely
for the purpose of obtaining British nationality for their
children. It's believed that the Thatcher government
implemented this change on the concept that there would be a
flood of people from Hong Kong, coming to the UK to obtain
full British nationality for their children once it was announced
that Hong Kong would revert to Chinese control.

There are, of course, some countries in the world whose
nationality laws are solely based on ancestry, and place of
birth has no bearing on whether a person has citizenship there
or not.

The child of two Americans, born overseas, does not automatically have
American citizenship. He must spend three? years in the U.S. before
his 21st? birthday in order to nail it down.

Not anymore.

The requirement for a person born outside the US, and who
receives US citizenship through parentage, to return to the US
to live for a period of time, in order to maintain his US citizenship
was repealed in 1978.

Now, a person who receives his US citizenship through birth
abroad to US parent(s) has no requirement to ever return to
the US in order to maintain citizenship.


Europeans would find this bizzare. I am an Irish citizen, with an
Irish passport, because my father was born in Ireland. It doesn't
matter that I was born in Massachusetts.

Several European countries have similar concepts. A friend of mine
is an Italian citizen because his parents were born in Italy. He's
also a Canadian by birth.

Stephen Gallagher

Cub Driver wrote in
:


Why the double standard? Why the hipocracy? Why the predjudice?

It's none of the above. The United States takes the attitude that
citizenship comes with residence, not bloodline. Britain (and I
think most European countries) take the opposite view.

The child of two Americans, born overseas, does not automatically
have American citizenship. He must spend three? years in the U.S.
before his 21st? birthday in order to nail it down.

Non, as others have noted.

Whether an American citizen passes on American citizenship to a child
born outside the US depends on the *citizen's* residence in the US.
For me, born in the US and having lived in the US most of my life*,
my kid Ethelred is automatically a US citizen no matter where he's
born, let's hypothesize Jimbostan. But if Eggfilth remains in
Jimbostan and never comes to the US, his kids born abroad will *not*
be US citizens at birth, even though they are the children of an
American citizen.

Jim, who notes that you learn all sorts of interesting things when
you marry a foreign Canadian person.

*all of it, if they'd count the times when my dad was stationed in
Germany as US residence

--
Jim Battista
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.

In message , Eastward
Bound writes
Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a British
Citizen?

The English RAF doesn't exist.

No. You have to have been born lucky, like me.

Mike


--
M.J.Powell

(Eastward Bound) wrote in message . com...
Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a British Citizen?


~Thanks in Advance!


Hey I e-mailed the careers office in London and here is the response I
got:

Please email rafapps-careers.mod.uk as they will be able to proceed
further. Failing that contact us on 02073054278. You would need to
copme along to the careers office etc to make an application as there
will be a number of interviews and tests should you be eligible.
Eligibility depends on a number of things. Application takes between
6-9 months or longer. Thank you for your interest.



Can you imagine that!? Me a yank? In the Royal Air Force? How about
that LOL...

If I wanted the join the Air Force I would join the USAF which might
not be as OLD as the RAF or as rich in history but is still something
great to be a part of. Sure the USAF might not have as much history
but IMO has a better fleet of aircraft. Is bigger in numbers,
likewise needs more volunteers to keep operating.

"Eastward Bound"
If I wanted the join the Air Force I would join the USAF which might
not be as OLD as the RAF or as rich in history but is still something
great to be a part of. Sure the USAF might not have as much history
but IMO has a better fleet of aircraft. Is bigger in numbers,
likewise needs more volunteers to keep operating.

If you want to fly antiques you might consider joining the Canadian
Armed Forces.
They have a fleet of antique aircraft! Almost as old as the Commemorative
Air Force! ;-(

Ed (retired RCAF/CAF Tech)
Hoping things will improve!

"Ed Majden" wrote in message news:LkmDb.713856$6C4.570027@pd7tw1no...
"Eastward Bound"
If I wanted the join the Air Force I would join the USAF which might
not be as OLD as the RAF or as rich in history but is still something
great to be a part of. Sure the USAF might not have as much history
but IMO has a better fleet of aircraft. Is bigger in numbers,
likewise needs more volunteers to keep operating.

If you want to fly antiques you might consider joining the Canadian
Armed Forces.
They have a fleet of antique aircraft! Almost as old as the Commemorative
Air Force! ;-(

Ed (retired RCAF/CAF Tech)
Hoping things will improve!


Really? The Canadian Armed Forces enlists foreigners?

"Eastward Bound"
Really? The Canadian Armed Forces enlists foreigners?

The RCAF had many recruits from the USA prior to them entering the war!
With all the cutbacks in strength today this may be more difficult. There
are waiting lists for Canadian citizens these days , except for trained
pilots and medical doctors!

Eastward Bound wrote:

Really? The Canadian Armed Forces enlists foreigners?

Not usually, but it will in a pinch.

[QR&O] 6.01 – QUALIFICATIONS FOR ENROLMENT

(1) In order to be eligible for enrolment in the Canadian Forces as an
officer or non-commissioned member, a person must:

(a) be a Canadian citizen, except that the Chief of the Defence Staff
or such officer as he may designate[1] may authorize the enrolment of
a citizen of another country if he is satisfied that a special need
exists and that the national interest would not be prejudiced thereby;

[1] Associate Deputy Minister -- Human Resources (Military) AKA
ADM-HR(Mil)
http://www.dnd.ca/admfincs/subjects/...006_e.asp#6.01
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

In message , Eastward
Bound writes
(Eastward Bound) wrote in message
.com...
Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a
British Citizen?


~Thanks in Advance!


Hey I e-mailed the careers office in London and here is the response I
got:

Please email rafapps-careers.mod.uk as they will be able to proceed
further. Failing that contact us on 02073054278. You would need to
copme along to the careers office etc to make an application as there
will be a number of interviews and tests should you be eligible.
Eligibility depends on a number of things. Application takes between
6-9 months or longer. Thank you for your interest.



Can you imagine that!? Me a yank? In the Royal Air Force? How about
that LOL...

Wasn't there a film called 'A Yank in the RAF'?

Mike
--
M.J.Powell