Boeing $188 million side-firing AC-130U gunship contract

From: Chad Irby
Date: 12/14/2003 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
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(B2431) wrote:

From: Michael Williamson PAM

My bad- read it wrong. But then where would the "C" in AC-71
come from? (see, I've got an exuse for almost everything...)

Mike

Think of integral calculus where C is a constant that can be any number. In
this case it can be any letter combination?

In that case if they ever make a B-1C you can mess with people and say the
C
stands for RD making it a B-1RD.

Ow. That's almost as bad as the original B-One.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Or the GU-11.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: Michael Williamson PAM
Date: 12/14/2003 5:41 PM Central Standard Time
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Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
Michael Williamson wrote:


James Hart wrote:


Why not just build a AC-71, would get there quick enough but might
have a
bit of a wide loiter area.


Several problems with the C-17,


He said AC-71.

Like SR-71.


My bad- read it wrong. But then where would the "C" in AC-71
come from? (see, I've got an exuse for almost everything...)

Mike

Think of integral calculus where C is a constant that can be any number.
In
this case it can be any letter combination?

Except the USAF has a meaning for those letters.

Oh well, Dan is a kook again.

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mary Shafer wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 06:07:58 GMT, "Jim Atkins"
wrote:

I'd pay money to see an AC-5 in action, but I'm not holding my breath.
Come
to think of it, they could probably put the guns from the Iowa on that
thing.

Making an AC-5 might be a good example of the precept that just
because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

But I'd like to see it in action, too.

Of course, you could mount pretty much *anything* in one of those.
GAU-8s,

The old 105mm tank main guns now tanks have gone to 120mm.
Wait a minute, which tube was the Copperhead guided round for,
155mm? That would be the ticket.

Sidewinder launchers for self-defense,

CIWS for self defense I tell you, why won't you people listen? ;-)
That and it's a new home for the Phonix inventory.
No sense being shy about it.

a small AWACS-type
system, maybe an old XF-85 Goblin fighter or two to toss out the back...

Why something so small, an F-16 should be workable.

"John Keeney" wrote:
"Chad Irby" wrote:
Mary Shafer wrote:
"Jim Atkins" wrote:
I'd pay money to see an AC-5 in action, but I'm not holding my
breath. Come to think of it, they could probably put the guns
from the Iowa on that thing.

Making an AC-5 might be a good example of the precept that just
because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

But I'd like to see it in action, too.

Of course, you could mount pretty much *anything* in one of those.
GAU-8s,

The old 105mm tank main guns now tanks have gone to 120mm.
Wait a minute, which tube was the Copperhead guided round for,
155mm? That would be the ticket.

If we're doing that, go with pure rockets. Downrated MLRS, maybe (don't
need the range). Just put full-width tubes across the fuselage for the
exhaust. Don't have to deal with recoil, then.

Not to mention a lot of guided anti-tank missiles.

Sidewinder launchers for self-defense,

CIWS for self defense I tell you, why won't you people listen? ;-)

Even better, although a longer-ranged one would be nice. And the
Sidewinder would give a little more range. Maybe a dozen or so slung
under the wings, to fill in between the long-range and CIWS.

That and it's a new home for the Phonix inventory.

Have we got many left? Toss in a couple of Genies, while you're at it.
The heck with tactical, let's go with strategic arms.

No sense being shy about it.

Exactly. More, bigger, louder.

a small AWACS-type system, maybe an old XF-85 Goblin fighter or two
to toss out the back...

Why something so small, an F-16 should be workable.

Wingspan. The cargo compartment's only 19 feet wide. The F-16 is 32
feet. Or we could hang one under one of the wings.

Although an updated F-104 might fit, with a reduced wingspan (right at
22 feet). Catapult launch, maybe.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

"Les Matheson" wrote in message news:nvOCb.818$Fg.276@lakeread01...
The 25mm is going to be the standard. Eventually they plan to put them on
the AC-130H also. The 40mm has run out of ammunition and no more is being
purchased.

Well, 40mm L/60 ammo is still in production in various countries, so
that is hardly a strong reason for dumping the gun.

Tony Williams
Military gun and ammunition website: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
Military gun and ammunition discussion forum:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/

From: Frank Vaughan
Date: 12/15/2003 1:26 AM Central Standard Time
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In message , Michael Williamson
wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
Michael Williamson wrote:


James Hart wrote:


Why not just build a AC-71, would get there quick enough but might have
a
bit of a wide loiter area.


Several problems with the C-17,


He said AC-71.

Like SR-71.


My bad- read it wrong. But then where would the "C" in AC-71
come from? (see, I've got an exuse for almost everything...)


Attack-Camera-71 ?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Frank Vaughan "Spectre Gunner"

Assault with a deadly camera is a felony in The People's Republic of South
California.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Hey, I only am telling you what I know.

--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Tony Williams" wrote in message
m...
"Les Matheson" wrote in message
news:nvOCb.818$Fg.276@lakeread01...
The 25mm is going to be the standard. Eventually they plan to put them
on
the AC-130H also. The 40mm has run out of ammunition and no more is
being
purchased.

Well, 40mm L/60 ammo is still in production in various countries, so
that is hardly a strong reason for dumping the gun.

Tony Williams
Military gun and ammunition website: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
Military gun and ammunition discussion forum:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/

Michael Williamson wrote:
Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
Michael Williamson wrote:


James Hart wrote:


Why not just build a AC-71, would get there quick enough but might
have a bit of a wide loiter area.


Several problems with the C-17,


He said AC-71.

Like SR-71.


My bad- read it wrong. But then where would the "C" in AC-71
come from? (see, I've got an exuse for almost everything...)

Err, it tows a trailer so it can be used as a transport as well.

--
James...
http://www.jameshart.co.uk/

"Les Matheson" wrote in message news:aZhDb.3828$Fg.2383@lakeread01...
Hey, I only am telling you what I know.


I wasn't criticising what you said - just thinking that they couldn't
much want to hang on the gun, because if they did they could always
get more ammo.

Tony Williams
Military gun and ammunition website: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
Discussion forum at: http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/

--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Tony Williams" wrote in message
m...
"Les Matheson" wrote in message
news:nvOCb.818$Fg.276@lakeread01...
The 25mm is going to be the standard. Eventually they plan to put them
on
the AC-130H also. The 40mm has run out of ammunition and no more is
being
purchased.

Well, 40mm L/60 ammo is still in production in various countries, so
that is hardly a strong reason for dumping the gun.

Tony Williams
Military gun and ammunition website: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
Military gun and ammunition discussion forum:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/

On 15 Dec 2003 01:07:27 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

From: Chad Irby
Date: 12/14/2003 6:40 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(B2431) wrote:

From: Michael Williamson PAM

My bad- read it wrong. But then where would the "C" in AC-71
come from? (see, I've got an exuse for almost everything...)

Mike

Think of integral calculus where C is a constant that can be any number. In
this case it can be any letter combination?

In that case if they ever make a B-1C you can mess with people and say the
C
stands for RD making it a B-1RD.

Ow. That's almost as bad as the original B-One.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Or the GU-11.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

That wasn't as bad as the "cargo" variant, the
C-GU11

Al Minyard