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B747 Loses All 4 Generators Due To Clogged Sink In 1st Class Galley



 
 
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Old January 11th 08, 08:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:18:57 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Some accept them from their own users but none accept them from other
servers so they are useless.


It's been a while since I looked at the innards of an NNTP server. If I
recall correctly, though, outbound queues store only message IDs. So if
a locally originated message is canceled before it is transmitted off-
site, the cancel will have the proper effect.

Once the message is beyond the horizon in which cancels are honored, of
course, the electrons have been wasted.

- Andrew
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Old January 11th 08, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Clark
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:16 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:11:35 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote in
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You really ought to know that there isn't a mainstream news server on
the planet that still accepts cancel commands.


You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. Given
that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd
characterize them as mainstream.


Don't you mean BBN Planet? They weren't bought/merged into AT&T, they
were merged into Level 3. But I digress.
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Old January 11th 08, 09:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder[_2_]
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:18:57 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Some accept them from their own users but none accept them from other
servers so they are useless.


It's been a while since I looked at the innards of an NNTP server. If I
recall correctly, though, outbound queues store only message IDs. So if
a locally originated message is canceled before it is transmitted off-
site, the cancel will have the proper effect.

Once the message is beyond the horizon in which cancels are honored, of
course, the electrons have been wasted.

- Andrew



Well looking at Larry's message that he says he sent a cancel message
and the follow up message I think the difference was 4 minutes.
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Old January 11th 08, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:06:10 -0500, Peter Clark
wrote in
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:16 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:11:35 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote in
:


You really ought to know that there isn't a mainstream news server on
the planet that still accepts cancel commands.


You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. Given
that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd
characterize them as mainstream.


Don't you mean BBN Planet? They weren't bought/merged into AT&T, they
were merged into Level 3. But I digress.


All I know is, that back in '83 when the news moved over uucp
communication links, it seemed like nearly all traffic went through
ihnp4 which was AT&T the way I remember it.

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Old January 11th 08, 10:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only have
enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for the
flight deck?


That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you expect? The
aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get by on battery power
alone.
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Old January 11th 08, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default B747 Loses All 4 Generators Due To Clogged Sink In 1st Class Galley

Larry Dighera writes:

You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. Given
that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd
characterize them as mainstream.


Unless you get your newsgroups from the AT&T servers, that doesn't make much
difference.
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Old January 11th 08, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Michael Huber writes:

Well, news.t-online.de honors cancel commands, and it's the news server of
Germany's biggest ISP, and since Germany is to the best of my knowledge on
the planet you are speaking of, that would qualify it as mainstream.


Germany isn't even a blip on the Internet radar.
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Old January 12th 08, 01:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Michael Huber[_2_]
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Well looking at Larry's message that he says he sent a cancel message
and the follow up message I think the difference was 4 minutes.


FWIW, I did not see Larry's original message, though I have no way of
telling whether the cancel was honored by T-Online or a server further
upstream.

What was the content, subject or msg-id of the test message you sent and
cancelled? I am not seeing an obvious "test, I will cancel this" message
from you.

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Old January 12th 08, 01:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Michael Huber[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Germany isn't even a blip on the Internet radar.


Must... not... respond... to... troll...

*breathes*

There. Wasn't that difficult, now, was it?
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Old January 12th 08, 02:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only
have enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for
the flight deck?


That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you
expect? The aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get
by on battery power alone.


Nope.


Bertie
 




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