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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:18:57 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Some accept them from their own users but none accept them from other servers so they are useless. It's been a while since I looked at the innards of an NNTP server. If I recall correctly, though, outbound queues store only message IDs. So if a locally originated message is canceled before it is transmitted off- site, the cancel will have the proper effect. Once the message is beyond the horizon in which cancels are honored, of course, the electrons have been wasted. - Andrew |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:16 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:11:35 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote in : You really ought to know that there isn't a mainstream news server on the planet that still accepts cancel commands. You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. Given that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd characterize them as mainstream. Don't you mean BBN Planet? They weren't bought/merged into AT&T, they were merged into Level 3. But I digress. |
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:18:57 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote: Some accept them from their own users but none accept them from other servers so they are useless. It's been a while since I looked at the innards of an NNTP server. If I recall correctly, though, outbound queues store only message IDs. So if a locally originated message is canceled before it is transmitted off- site, the cancel will have the proper effect. Once the message is beyond the horizon in which cancels are honored, of course, the electrons have been wasted. - Andrew Well looking at Larry's message that he says he sent a cancel message and the follow up message I think the difference was 4 minutes. |
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:06:10 -0500, Peter Clark
wrote in : On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:16 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:11:35 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote in : You really ought to know that there isn't a mainstream news server on the planet that still accepts cancel commands. You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. Given that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd characterize them as mainstream. Don't you mean BBN Planet? They weren't bought/merged into AT&T, they were merged into Level 3. But I digress. All I know is, that back in '83 when the news moved over uucp communication links, it seemed like nearly all traffic went through ihnp4 which was AT&T the way I remember it. |
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:
Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only have enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for the flight deck? That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you expect? The aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get by on battery power alone. |
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Larry Dighera writes:
You ought to know that AT&T Worldnet honors cancel commands. Given that they were the backbone for arpanet/usenet in the '80s, I'd characterize them as mainstream. Unless you get your newsgroups from the AT&T servers, that doesn't make much difference. |
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Michael Huber writes:
Well, news.t-online.de honors cancel commands, and it's the news server of Germany's biggest ISP, and since Germany is to the best of my knowledge on the planet you are speaking of, that would qualify it as mainstream. Germany isn't even a blip on the Internet radar. |
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Well looking at Larry's message that he says he sent a cancel message and the follow up message I think the difference was 4 minutes. FWIW, I did not see Larry's original message, though I have no way of telling whether the cancel was honored by T-Online or a server further upstream. What was the content, subject or msg-id of the test message you sent and cancelled? I am not seeing an obvious "test, I will cancel this" message from you. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Germany isn't even a blip on the Internet radar. Must... not... respond... to... troll... *breathes* There. Wasn't that difficult, now, was it? |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Gig 601XL Builder writes: Now for the guys with "Heavy" experience. Does the 747 really only have enough onboard battery power to last a little over an hour for the flight deck? That's already quite a while. How much battery power would you expect? The aircraft is designed so that it should never have to get by on battery power alone. Nope. Bertie |
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