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"Robert M. Gary" wrote: Today, scientist look back at the moon landings and are still in shock that no one ever died. Back then no one really realized the extent to which they got lucky many times on the Apollo missions. During practice with the LM teethered the pilots often would lose control. In addition, the assent rocket on the LM only worked 6 out of 10 times. What four times did it fail? -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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On Jan 24, 7:15*pm, Bob Noel
wrote: In article , *"Robert M. Gary" wrote: Today, scientist look back at the moon landings and are still in shock that no one ever died. Back then no one really realized the extent to which they got lucky many times on the Apollo missions. During practice with the LM teethered the pilots often would lose control. In addition, the assent rocket on the LM only worked 6 out of 10 times. What four times did it fail? During engine testing. -Robert |
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Jan 24, 7:15*pm, Bob Noel wrote: In article , *"Robert M. Gary" wrote: Today, scientist look back at the moon landings and are still in shock that no one ever died. Back then no one really realized the extent to which they got lucky many times on the Apollo missions. During practice with the LM teethered the pilots often would lose control. In addition, the assent rocket on the LM only worked 6 out of 10 times. What four times did it fail? During engine testing. Before or after the engine was completed? I doubt any engine actually mounted to a LM failed. And for sure and for certain, none failed in flight. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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On Jan 25, 4:24*pm, Bob Noel
wrote: In article , *"Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Jan 24, 7:15*pm, Bob Noel wrote: In article , *"Robert M. Gary" wrote: Today, scientist look back at the moon landings and are still in shock that no one ever died. Back then no one really realized the extent to which they got lucky many times on the Apollo missions. During practice with the LM teethered the pilots often would lose control. In addition, the assent rocket on the LM only worked 6 out of 10 times. What four times did it fail? During engine testing. Before or after the engine was completed? * I doubt any engine actually mounted to a LM failed. *And for sure and for certain, none failed in flight. After the engine was "completed", not mounted to an LM, the testing was done on a stand, certainly not in flight (thankfully), although at least one test vehicle was lost when the attitude control failed (pilot ejected safely). We know that Armstrong almost did not make it back, not because the ascent rocket didn't work but because the breaker to fire it broke off. Luckily U.S. gov't pens have lots of metal and fit into the hole of a broken breaker. The first lunar ascention was accomplished by jamming a pen into a broken off breaker head. -Robert |
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On Jan 23, 10:33*pm, terry wrote:
Is there really anything in common with flying an airplane and an LM? Terry PPL ( and aspiring astronaut) We might ask our resident sim guy. Apparently MSFS has an LM module. -Robret |
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ISTR reading somewhere there was an Air Force policy that led to fewer
applicants. It may have been (just speculating here) that the Air Force wanted to keep the best candidates to fly the fleet of spacecraft it intended to acquire. I don't remember where I read it, but that's true. The Air Force was intending to field a fleet of military space craft, and none other than Chuck Yeager was a key member of the team developing the pilots for this future fleet. They flew modified F-104 Starfighters fitted with rockets and thrusters (for steering in a near vacuum) to the very edge of space. The Air Force pilots in that program looked down their collective noses at the NASA space program as being just "spam in a can", with no role for them or their training. In many ways, they were right. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Jan 24, 1:33*am, terry wrote:
If the commanders flew the LMs why was the second guy always called the LM pilot? I am sure there has been plenty of civilian pilots in the shuttle program but not as pilots. Harrison Schmitt ( Apollo 17 Lunar module pilot) was a civillian but to what extent did he help fly the LM? The guy in the right-hand seat was called the "Lunar Module Pilot" but in fact he had very little to do with the hands-on flying of the Lunar Module. The mission commander was the guy with his hands actually on the controllers and his eye on the COAS sight, steering the LM down. The LMP's duties were more like a flight engineer's- they consisted mostly of making sure that the onboard computer was correctly set up, calling out guidance information to the pilot during descent, and dealing with any alarms that cropped up. (_Chariots for Apollo_ notes that the LMP's original title was "Engineer-Scientist", which is probably closer to accurate.) -JTD |
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