Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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Sheesh. It's hard to imagine anything non-military that could do it
anyway! The BD10 was supposed to have had a ROC of 33,000 FPM with the
larger engine, but there can't be much else capable of it.



Bertie



The Budweiser jet was kewl!


Did Bud sponser the BD 10 or was it somethign different?

Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Michael Ash wrote in
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In rec.aviation.student Gig 601XL Builder

wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR
flight.
Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.
Please then for my benefit point me to such a regulation.
Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about
25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in
terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many
flights would need to worry about this limitation.

Or climb!


But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is.


Bertie


Well personally I would never try do descent faster than 25,000ftm
below
10,000 feet, well actually I wouldn't above either....... ;-)


Wuss!

Sheesh. It's hard to imagine anything non-military that could do it
anyway! The BD10 was supposed to have had a ROC of 33,000 FPM with the
larger engine, but there can't be much else capable of it.



Bertie



The Budweiser jet was kewl!

"WingFlaps" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.


Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

You can't descend or climb faster than the speed of sound over most land.
Damn.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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Sheesh. It's hard to imagine anything non-military that could do it
anyway! The BD10 was supposed to have had a ROC of 33,000 FPM with the
larger engine, but there can't be much else capable of it.



Bertie



The Budweiser jet was kewl!


Did Bud sponser the BD 10 or was it somethign different?

Bertie




I think Bud sponsored it at air shows but I'm not 100% sure what the deal
was. Here is a pic -
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...d5j/bd5j-1.jpg

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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Sheesh. It's hard to imagine anything non-military that could do it
anyway! The BD10 was supposed to have had a ROC of 33,000 FPM with
the larger engine, but there can't be much else capable of it.



Bertie



The Budweiser jet was kewl!


Did Bud sponser the BD 10 or was it somethign different?

Bertie




I think Bud sponsored it at air shows but I'm not 100% sure what the
deal was. Here is a pic -
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...d5j/bd5j-1.jpg



Ah, OK, that's the BD 5J. the BD 10 was a whole nuther thing. It looked
like an F-14 and was a two seater. There were two engine options. One
was some sort of bizjet engine and gave very good performance. The other
engine option was much much larger and gave a 30,000 FPM plus rate of
climb. and was capable of mach 1.4.



Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
news
John writes:

No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.

Thanks.


Actually, now that I think about it, there is a (physical) law that says the
Vertical Speed shall be no faster than the Air Speed. So I guess that would
put a bound on it.
BobF.

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On Feb 14, 2:19*pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR
flight.

Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

Please then for my benefit point me to such a regulation.

Well, what if you exceeded the 250 knot limit going down in class E
below 1000?

Oh boy, would you be in trouble with the FAA then!


No, you can do it if ATC waive it. Happens all the time.


Bertie

On Feb 14, 2:19*pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.

Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

Please then for my benefit point me to such a regulation.

Well, what if you exceeded the 250 knot limit going down in class E
below 1000?

Oh boy, would you be in trouble with the FAA then!

It is an absolute violation to ascend or descend faster 186,000mps.
But
feel free to try and let me know the outcome.

That may change this year....

Bertie-

Hey, look. If you got no wikipedia link on that one I'm sorry but I
just gotta call BS on it.

wrote in news:abe412d8-9248-4ec1-b5d3-
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It is an absolute violation to ascend or descend faster 186,000mps.
But
feel free to try and let me know the outcome.

That may change this year....

Bertie-

Hey, look. If you got no wikipedia link on that one I'm sorry but I
just gotta call BS on it.


Well, it's the particle accelerator at CERN in Geneva, They're doing an
experiment this year which could open a wormhole, or make a localised black
hole. they'r enot really sure, which is a bit worring. I didn't see it on
the net, but I'm sure you can find plenty!

Bertie