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"Photo of Kerry with Fonda enrages Vietnam veterans"



 
 
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Old February 27th 04, 08:33 AM
miso
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http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp
Geez, must be 30 posts and nobody noticed that the photo was a fake.

I can't tell you how many people mailed me the "fishy" story about
Kerry, but that is a fake as well:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

In fact, I have never ever been mailed one of these "mail it around to
your friends" stories that was true. Never. Nada. Zip.

Get over it people. Kerry was there, he fought, he was wounded. No
amount of dissing the man will make the other guy's AWOL story go
away.


(Mike) wrote in message . com...
Photo of Kerry with Fonda enrages Vietnam veterans
A photograph of John Kerry together with Jane Fonda at an anti-Vietnam
War rally in 1970 in Pennsylvania has surfaced on the Internet,
angering veterans who say his association with her 34 years ago is a
slap in the faces of Vietnam War veterans.
at
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3002-8027r.htm
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Old February 28th 04, 09:45 PM
miso
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Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.
However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No, it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.

The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry. Karl Rove needs to dish out more lies. Speaking of
more lies:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...ense-kerry.htm



Chad Irby wrote in message . com...
In article ,
(miso) wrote:

Get over it people. Kerry was there, he fought, he was wounded. No
amount of dissing the man will make the other guy's AWOL story go
away.


Nope - it's the actual *proof* that's been shown that made that one go
away.

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Old February 28th 04, 10:59 PM
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"miso" wrote in message
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Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.


How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status?

However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No,


Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not
commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have
weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it
was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you
create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug
testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base
clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included
in the evaluation criteria, huh?

it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.


What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty
days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any
different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out
courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more
experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot?


The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry.


Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went
on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole
"Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory
completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other
early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little
feat?

Brooks

snip


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Old February 28th 04, 11:12 PM
Bob McKellar
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

"miso" wrote in message
om...

Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.


How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status?

However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No,


Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not
commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have
weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it
was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you
create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug
testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base
clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included
in the evaluation criteria, huh?

it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.


What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty
days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any
different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out
courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more
experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot?


The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry.


Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went
on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole
"Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory
completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other
early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little
feat?

Brooks

snip


Me.

Bob McKellar

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Old February 29th 04, 07:35 PM
miso
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The bottom line is "fly boy" was grounded:
###
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgame...bid=3&pid=1257
Nor do these records explain why Bush, who had been trained as fighter
pilot, failed to take a flight physical during the year in question
and was grounded. Nor do they back up the 2000 Bush campaign's
explanation that Bush did not take a flight physical because he was
living in Alabama and his personal doctor was in Houston. (Flight
physicals are administered by military physicians, and there were
flight physicians at the base in Alabama where Bush says he served.)
###
Driving that plane, high on cocaine, Dubya Bush you better watch your
speed (and altitude)

As a bonus, here is a bit about the Bush lie squad, AKA Ted Sampley
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2424667


"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
"miso" wrote in message
om...

Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.


How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status?

However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue
his life long goal of an aviation career? No,


Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not
commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have
weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it
was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you
create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug
testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base
clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included
in the evaluation criteria, huh?

it seems he was
grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can
use connections to get out of the service.


What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty
days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any
different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out
courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more
experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot?


The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by
side with Kerry.


Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went
on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole
"Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory
completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other
early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little
feat?

Brooks

snip

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Old February 27th 04, 10:42 PM
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Check this URl for an expose of the fake Kerry/Fonda picture.


There is, of course, still the real Fonda/Kerry photograph from Valley
Forge. (The one in color, with Kerry sitting a few rows back from
Fonda.)

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the "fake" Kerry photograph
(black-white, supposedly showing the two of them at the podium) wasn't
doctored up by Kerry spinners. Then, when the Valley Forge picture is
published, or photos from "The New Soldier," they can say: Oh gosh,
that fake was exposed back in February!"

all the best -- Dan Ford
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