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Jack wrote in
: On 2/11/04 5:41 PM, in article , "Stephen Harding" wrote: I think many people of 1970 would never have believed being anti-war would be a negative attribute in the future. That is hardly a complement. They were and are a naïve/cowardly/stupid/traitorous [pick one or more] lot. ----- Jack ----- Many of the anti-war efforts were instigated and funded by the Soviets,I've read.(according to recently released documents from the fUSSR.) -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp
Geez, must be 30 posts and nobody noticed that the photo was a fake. I can't tell you how many people mailed me the "fishy" story about Kerry, but that is a fake as well: http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp In fact, I have never ever been mailed one of these "mail it around to your friends" stories that was true. Never. Nada. Zip. Get over it people. Kerry was there, he fought, he was wounded. No amount of dissing the man will make the other guy's AWOL story go away. (Mike) wrote in message . com... Photo of Kerry with Fonda enrages Vietnam veterans A photograph of John Kerry together with Jane Fonda at an anti-Vietnam War rally in 1970 in Pennsylvania has surfaced on the Internet, angering veterans who say his association with her 34 years ago is a slap in the faces of Vietnam War veterans. at http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3002-8027r.htm |
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Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof.
However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue his life long goal of an aviation career? No, it seems he was grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can use connections to get out of the service. The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by side with Kerry. Karl Rove needs to dish out more lies. Speaking of more lies: http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...ense-kerry.htm Chad Irby wrote in message . com... In article , (miso) wrote: Get over it people. Kerry was there, he fought, he was wounded. No amount of dissing the man will make the other guy's AWOL story go away. Nope - it's the actual *proof* that's been shown that made that one go away. |
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![]() "miso" wrote in message om... Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof. How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status? However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue his life long goal of an aviation career? No, Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included in the evaluation criteria, huh? it seems he was grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can use connections to get out of the service. What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot? The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by side with Kerry. Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole "Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little feat? Brooks snip |
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![]() Kevin Brooks wrote: "miso" wrote in message om... Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof. How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status? However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue his life long goal of an aviation career? No, Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included in the evaluation criteria, huh? it seems he was grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can use connections to get out of the service. What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot? The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by side with Kerry. Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole "Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little feat? Brooks snip Me. Bob McKellar |
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The bottom line is "fly boy" was grounded:
### http://www.thenation.com/capitalgame...bid=3&pid=1257 Nor do these records explain why Bush, who had been trained as fighter pilot, failed to take a flight physical during the year in question and was grounded. Nor do they back up the 2000 Bush campaign's explanation that Bush did not take a flight physical because he was living in Alabama and his personal doctor was in Houston. (Flight physicals are administered by military physicians, and there were flight physicians at the base in Alabama where Bush says he served.) ### Driving that plane, high on cocaine, Dubya Bush you better watch your speed (and altitude) As a bonus, here is a bit about the Bush lie squad, AKA Ted Sampley http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2424667 "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "miso" wrote in message om... Proof? Well, he got some free dental work done if you call that proof. How would an ANG member get such care without being in a duty status? However, did he pass his drug screening test so that he could continue his life long goal of an aviation career? No, Sorry, but you are a year or two too early--drug screening had not commenced, and according to the pilots who were flying at the time and have weighed in on the subject (including Ed, IIRC) it was done randomly when it was initiated a couple of years later. Kind of easy to condemn him when you create your own little fantasy world to do so in which things like drug testing that was not yet underway and NG personnel just dropping by the base clinic whenever they felt like it to receive free health care are included in the evaluation criteria, huh? it seems he was grounded. No use taking a test that will show drug use when you can use connections to get out of the service. What kind of "connections" were required that made him pile up those duty days during that last few months so he *could* leave, and were they any different from those used by the other pilots who were also getting out courtesy of the glut of pilot qualified individuals with heaps more experience then leaving active duty and looking for a Guard slot? The problem is Bush* looks like the faux warrior when placed side by side with Kerry. Would that be the same Kerry who also left active duty early, and then went on to serve as a reserve officer for a few years (while playing that whole "Winter Soldier" gig, no less)? With no evidence supporting his satisfactory completion of any reserve obligations during that period? How many other early-release-from-AC officers do you know of who managed *that* little feat? Brooks snip |
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![]() Check this URl for an expose of the fake Kerry/Fonda picture. There is, of course, still the real Fonda/Kerry photograph from Valley Forge. (The one in color, with Kerry sitting a few rows back from Fonda.) I wouldn't be at all surprised if the "fake" Kerry photograph (black-white, supposedly showing the two of them at the podium) wasn't doctored up by Kerry spinners. Then, when the Valley Forge picture is published, or photos from "The New Soldier," they can say: Oh gosh, that fake was exposed back in February!" all the best -- Dan Ford email: (requires authentication) see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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