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Israel murders disabled people... whats next i wonder IDF-Apachefiring missiles on 67yr old civilian in wheelchair- at Sabra mosque inGaza...



 
 
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Old March 25th 04, 04:54 AM
LawsonE
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
Charles Gray wrote:

Isreal made an error-- I think the palestinain rage and
energization will cost them more than leaving a fellow alive who
wasn't overly involved in the tactical end of things, but as for being
"wrong"-- well no.


People have said that a lot, since the start of the current "second
Intifada," but facts don't bear it out. Israel started targeting Hamas
and other leaders early last year, and the result has been a *reduction*
in attacks by Palestinians, a reduction in deaths of Israelis, and a
reduction in deaths of Palestinians.

"Common wisdom" says that we should have seen a massive increase in
attacks over the last year.

Practical warmaking says that killing the leaders of an organization
that wants to kill you is a smart move, since it makes them less
effective and puts the enemy in the position of trying to fight you
while being run by the less-talented second-raters.


In the short run, that may be true, but it gets kinda old after the first
few generations.

Unless you're claiming that ONLY the current generation of Palestinians are
going to demand reprisals.


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Old March 25th 04, 06:20 AM
Chad Irby
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In article .net,
"LawsonE" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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Practical warmaking says that killing the leaders of an organization
that wants to kill you is a smart move, since it makes them less
effective and puts the enemy in the position of trying to fight you
while being run by the less-talented second-raters.


In the short run, that may be true, but it gets kinda old after the first
few generations.


Well, a 30% to 50% drop in terror ops and deaths on both sides in one
*year* seems like a lot better trend than letting the real bad guys keep
on living and talking the young idiots into doing stupid things.

The medium-dumb ones already got the message. They're sending in 10 and
16 year old boys with bombs strapped to them now. With a corresponding
lack of success (the kids aren't happy with it and don't really
cooperate). *MAJOR* PR failure among their own people.

Unless you're claiming that ONLY the current generation of Palestinians are
going to demand reprisals.


Like this has only been going on for a year? The people who are calling
for "reprisals" are the guys who, whenever there's a chance for peace,
send out the bomb-toting morons. Kill off the bosses, and you get less
terrorism.

We're in something like the fourth generation of idiots in Gaza... and
when you kill off the mean smart ones who have been running things, the
nice smart ones get a chance to come to the top over the mean dumb ones.

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Old March 25th 04, 07:09 PM
Alan Minyard
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 06:20:16 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

In article .net,
"LawsonE" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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Practical warmaking says that killing the leaders of an organization
that wants to kill you is a smart move, since it makes them less
effective and puts the enemy in the position of trying to fight you
while being run by the less-talented second-raters.


In the short run, that may be true, but it gets kinda old after the first
few generations.


Well, a 30% to 50% drop in terror ops and deaths on both sides in one
*year* seems like a lot better trend than letting the real bad guys keep
on living and talking the young idiots into doing stupid things.

The medium-dumb ones already got the message. They're sending in 10 and
16 year old boys with bombs strapped to them now. With a corresponding
lack of success (the kids aren't happy with it and don't really
cooperate). *MAJOR* PR failure among their own people.

Unless you're claiming that ONLY the current generation of Palestinians are
going to demand reprisals.


Like this has only been going on for a year? The people who are calling
for "reprisals" are the guys who, whenever there's a chance for peace,
send out the bomb-toting morons. Kill off the bosses, and you get less
terrorism.

We're in something like the fourth generation of idiots in Gaza... and
when you kill off the mean smart ones who have been running things, the
nice smart ones get a chance to come to the top over the mean dumb ones.


And about the fourth generation of religious fanatics in Israel. Fanatic vs
fanatic is a lose-lose proposition.

Al minyard
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Old March 26th 04, 05:51 AM
David E. Powell
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So what? I f a guy in a wheelchair orders a bomb planted, isn't he as guilty
if he did it himself while doing the 100 meter dash?

I mean if a guy in a wheelchair could use his arms, and wheeled himself in a
crowded room, pulled out a submachine gun and hosed some people, isn't he
still a killer?


 




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