Do CAP members salute?

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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|I have been at various airshows, flyins, etc where CAP cadets and adults
| were present in uniform.
|
| As the civilian auxiliary of the Air Force are they expected to salute
| officers etc? Are members of the Air Force supposed to salute CAP members
of
| higher rank?
|
| Walking around at these functions it is sometimes hard to tell who rates a
| salute or not.
|
|

Aaahwwww, poor baby. Did someone forget to salute doctorjetpilot?

Maybe they recognized you.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
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| I have been at various airshows, flyins, etc where CAP cadets and
| adults were present in uniform.
|
| As the civilian auxiliary of the Air Force are they expected to salute
| officers etc?
|
|
| Yep
|
|
| Bertie

gotta link dikk ed.

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be variable.
| Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform, two Air Force and
| one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a local disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had a first
| lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are you, good day, or
| something similar. He certainly would have been welcome to stand with us,
| share ideas, and come up with some ways we could work with CAP and the
| military to enhance our disaster preparedness.
|
| However, he basically walked right past us, never said a word (or
saluted),
| and simply walked away. I have seen this on other occasions, and it gives
| the impression that the CAP guys want to remain autonomous and not really
| act as part of the Air Force.
|
| Perhaps they are intimidated by actual members of the military, or perhaps
| they were former enlisted that now wear an officer's uniform but feel
| uncomfortable doing so.
|
| It just strikes me that if we (CAP and the Air Force) worked more closely,
| it would be to everyone's benefit.
|
|

Stop whining and grow up.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
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| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform, two
| Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a local
| disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had a
| first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are you,
| good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been welcome
| to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways we could
| work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP personell are
as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified to be a
| security gaurd in a mall.
|
|
| Bertie

How can you tell when someone is crazy. You have no frame of reference.

"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
|
| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform, two
| Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a local
| disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had a
| first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are you,
| good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been welcome
| to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways we could
| work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP personell are
| as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified to be
a
| security gaurd in a mall.
|
| This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag. Many
| members were in the real air force and many have retired from the same. I
| know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the real USAF.
There's
| also a lot of members who just like to fly and have fun and could care
less
| about the pretend military gig. The pretend air force aspect of CAP is
| mostly for the cadets. Paying $70 per year in dues does not make one an
| officer, although there are many who seem to think it does. For senior
| members, there's also the option of wearing CAP distinctive uniforms which
| display no rank insignia. That's the option preferred by those who don't
| really want to pretend they are in the military.
|

Gee Mikey Mouth. I didn't know you were a CAP wanna be.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| :
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| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
|
| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform,
| two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
| local disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had a
| first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are you,
| good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been welcome
| to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways we could
| work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP personell
| are as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified to
| be a security gaurd in a mall.
|
| This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag.
| Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from the
| same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the real
| USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and have fun
| and could care less about the pretend military gig. The pretend air
| force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying $70 per year in
| dues does not make one an officer, although there are many who seem to
| think it does. For senior members, there's also the option of wearing
| CAP distinctive uniforms which display no rank insignia. That's the
| option preferred by those who don't really want to pretend they are in
| the military.
|
|
|
| Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They are in
| a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
|
|
| Bertie

That's because you have never finished anything. If they won't let you run
it, you pout and go home.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
|
| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform,
| two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
| local disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had
| a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are
| you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been
| welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways
| we could work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster
| preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
| personell are as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified
| to be a security gaurd in a mall.
|
| This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag.
| Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from
| the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the
| real USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and
| have fun and could care less about the pretend military gig. The
| pretend air force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying
| $70 per year in dues does not make one an officer, although there
| are many who seem to think it does. For senior members, there's
| also the option of wearing CAP distinctive uniforms which display no
| rank insignia. That's the option preferred by those who don't
| really want to pretend they are in the military.
|
|
|
| Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They are
| in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
|
| It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
| flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those tend
| to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are less
| tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse. At least
| in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't ever fly
| unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4 months without
| flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well tolerated in squadrons
| that are more serious about the flying aspect.
|
|
| Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
| mostly.
|
| bertie
|

I seriously doubt they give a **** what you think. Most intelligent people
don't.

"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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| On the other side of that coin there are those who expect to join CAP and
| think they have a "right" to start flying missions the next day because
they
| have X number of ratings or whatever, or they are simply a low time pilot
| who wants to fly CAP planes on the cheap, yet contribute nothing to the
| organization. Or they simply join up one day and expect the organization
to
| bend around them rather than wanting to be part of a team. Many of them
| wind up like you and quit. Good ridance, I say. CAP has over 500
aircraft
| in their fleet, so it should come as no surprise that they are going to
| auger one in now and then. The nature of the business involves some level
| of risk. Of the crashes you mentioned, all involved very experienced and
| competent pilots. Perhaps they did do something stupid, but if you think
| you are smarter than they were, or a better pilot, you have the type of
| attitude that often leads to a smoking crater at the end of your flying
| career.
|
|

Are you in uniform? Did you salute Viperquack's first post?

"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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Hey! Mikey Mouths tricycle has a reverse!

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In closing I am not some keyboard pilot and I will identify myself...
I bet you don't have the balls to..


Ben Haas
Jackson Hole Wy
N801BH


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I bet he doesn't either, Ben.