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On 2008-09-26 15:56:52 -0700, " said:
On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell wrote: On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " said: On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell wrote: On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder said: I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses. If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, wh y are they still recruiting? As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really came down an issued new rules . G Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief of Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new rules? I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is fine by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to abuse them, either. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not honor the US flag. They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for that matter sing the national anthem.. Looks like a free ride to me Well, maybe it is a free ride. Maybe it is a free ride for Quakers and other peace groups as well. Still, they do have to pay taxes and those taxes go to support our military, whether they like it or not. I served my country in the Air Force. I have done as much as I thought I could do to preserve freedom in this country. And I was glad to do it. I do not begrudge the JWs or anybody else the freedoms that I worked for. I only wish those freedoms were universal throughout the world. I strongly disagree with the JWs on many issues, especially on duty to country. Nevertheless, as long as they are not actively fighting against us or committing some act of treason, I am willing to let them do as they wish. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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On 2008-09-26 18:11:20 -0700, "Morgans" said:
wrote JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not honor the US flag. They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for that matter sing the national anthem.. Looks like a free ride to me Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are only a cult. Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. A lot of people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept their idea of the Trinity. I do not think that their definition of the Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. And a lot of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. The JWs, at least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths are. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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![]() "C J Campbell" wrote Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. Perhaps that is too harsh, and I thought that right after I hit send. Still, they do have some very controlling ways among their followers. If not the "C" word, it is close, IMHO. A lot of people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept their idea of the Trinity. I would have to think that there is a big jump, up to your religion from the JW. I do not think that their definition of the Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. Extreemists. There are a lot of them around, unfortunately. And a lot of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. Again, extreemists. If they do not allow you your freedom, they are at fault. The JWs, at least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths are. There are many problems with people who have no flexibility for other people's views, and are willing to go to extreme measures to take other people's freedoms away. Although I may not agree with the JW point of view, and may even label them with some name, I fully stand behind their right to believe as they want, as long as they allow others to believe as they may. When it comes down to it, that is what the whole basis of this country was founded on. Long may that basis prosper. -- Jim in NC |
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C J Campbell wrote in
news:200809261923038930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: On 2008-09-26 15:56:52 -0700, " said: On Sep 26, 10:40*am, C J Campbell wrote: On 2008-09-26 04:37:16 -0700, " said: On Sep 26, 12:38*am, C J Campbell wrote: On 2008-09-23 14:41:48 -0700, Gig 601Xl Builder said: I've never understood something about Jehovah's Witnesses. If they think there are only going to be 144,000 people in heaven, wh y are they still recruiting? As I understand it, they no longer have that doctrine. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor Funny how the change rules to fit their mission....Like god really came down an issued new rules . G Well, why not, if it comes to that? Is that not a fundamental belief of Christianity in general -- that God came down and issued new rules? I don't have time for bashing others' religious beliefs. If the Jehovah's Witnesses feel compelled to send people around that is fine by me. I don't have to listen to them, but I don't have to abuse them, either. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not honor the US flag. They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for that matter sing the national anthem.. Looks like a free ride to me Well, maybe it is a free ride. Maybe it is a free ride for Quakers and other peace groups as well. Still, they do have to pay taxes and those taxes go to support our military, whether they like it or not. I served my country in the Air Force. I have done as much as I thought I could do to preserve freedom in this country. And I was glad to do it. I do not begrudge the JWs or anybody else the freedoms that I worked for. I only wish those freedoms were universal throughout the world. I strongly disagree with the JWs on many issues, especially on duty to country. Nevertheless, as long as they are not actively fighting against us or committing some act of treason, I am willing to let them do as they wish. You're a true christian. Bertie |
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C J Campbell opined
On 2008-09-26 18:11:20 -0700, "Morgans" said: wrote JW's enjoy freedom of speech that the United States allows for all residents, alot of people died to maintain that freedom. They will not honor the US flag. They enjoy freedom of religion that the United States allows for all residents, they will NOT say the pledge or remove their hats, or for that matter sing the national anthem.. Looks like a free ride to me Yep. They are not classified as a mainstream religion, in my book, but are only a cult. Well, "cult" gets thrown around a lot, pretty carelessly IMHO. A lot of people think I belong to a non-Christian "cult" because I do not accept their idea of the Trinity. I do not think that their definition of the Trinity is supported by the scriptures. So these people call me a cultist, vandalize our churches, and abuse our missionaries. And a lot of these people who dare call me a cultist have never served their country or done much of anything to preserve freedom other than to attack my freedoms. If it comes to a choice between the JWs and some Christian evangelists who, I just might pick the JWs. The JWs, at least, are willing to allow me my religious freedom. I cannot say the same for some evangelists who claim to be patriotic, but who are unwilling to put either their lives or their actions where their mouths are. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor A church is a cult with sufficient political power to make people call it a chuch. -ash Cthulhu in 2008! Vote the greater evil. |
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