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Old June 23rd 04, 06:10 PM
David Nicholls
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"M. J. Powell" wrote in message
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Delete 'Austrian', Insert 'Swiss'?

Mike.

Swiss are NOT part of EU (just surrounded by it!)

David


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Old June 22nd 04, 03:14 AM
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In article ,
"James Hart" wrote:

Henry J Cobb wrote:
David E. Powell wrote:
If the EU is looking for more reach without carriers, how about heavy
bombers? Certainly something on the order of B-1B as far as airframe
might be a goal, or something less radical. It depends on their
budget and requirements, I guess. From bases in Europe they could
cover much of Africa, the Middle East, etc.

Of course if they wanted to go somewhere with fighters they might
need escort, etc.


Actually the EU member states have carefully studied the relative
effectiveness of the USN and USAF and most have concluded that the
correct platforms for power projection in the future will be carriers
and submarines. ;-)


...and in a typical EU way of thinking the French vetoed the subs, the Brits
vetoed the carriers and the whole thing went to a vote. The net result is
that a committee came up with the conclusion that combining both roles would
be best so we'll shortly be announcing carrier subs as the new EU
peacekeeping fleet, to be manned by the Austrian navy.


Are they going to name it the "von Trapp"?
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Old June 22nd 04, 05:30 AM
Peter Stickney
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In article ,
Steve Hix writes:
In article ,
"James Hart" wrote:


Are they going to name it the "von Trapp"?


THat wouldn't be unreasonable - George von Trapp was one the early
submarine test pilots, and had a very successful record in WW 1,
inlcluding sinking the Italian Protected Cruiser Leon Gambretta in the
first night attack by a submarine, and sinking an Italian sup iv one
of the first sub-sub torpedo duels. The Austro-Hungarian submarine
force was probably the best of that war. They acheived an overall hit
rate of 90% of torpedos fired.

His first wife, the mother of most of the kids, was the
Granddaughter of Robert Whitehead, the inventer of the self-propelled
("Automobile" back then) torpedo.

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Old June 25th 04, 09:41 PM
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"James Hart" wrote:

we'll shortly be announcing carrier subs as the new EU
peacekeeping fleet, to be manned by the Austrian navy.


Excellent. They can be armed with Darkness Guided Bombs.




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Old June 21st 04, 02:45 PM
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What use would they be, anyway? These days heavy bombers
appear to be used mostly for tactical air support


I'm not sure what gave you this "appearance", but all three U.S. bombers have
done much more than CAS in the last three conflicts (since 1999).


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Old June 21st 04, 08:48 PM
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:44:07 GMT, David E. Powell wrote:
If the EU is looking for more reach without carriers, how about heavy
bombers? Certainly something on the order of B-1B as far as airframe might
be a goal, or something less radical. It depends on their budget and
requirements, I guess. From bases in Europe they could cover much of Africa,
the Middle East, etc.


A Tornado, Typhoon or Rafale with droptanks and Storm Shadow
missiles could probably reach quite far.

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