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Old July 27th 06, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:30:24 -0500, Emily
wrote:
It is.


With the required 1" letters? In English and Spanish?

If so, then for me at least, it boils down to whether there is a metal
detector / x-ray machine / guard searching packages... If not, then I
would probably carry anyway...

As much as some people like to think that Texas has liberal gun laws,
in fact, we don't... We are still left with a lot of laws due to the
oppression that resulted during Reconstruction after the War of
Northern Aggression... Slowly, we're throwing off this yoke of
oppression, but we're not quite there yet...
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Old July 27th 06, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:32:09 -0500, Emily
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That's what everyone says until they see the size of my purse. TINY.


Grace's started out that way many years ago... And then got bigger...
and bigger... and bigger... Now, I call her a bag lady...
ducking-and-running
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Old July 27th 06, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:14:08 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
Try #4 buck, better pattern.


At a typical defensive range, it doesn't matter... The pattern is less
than the size of a saucer... I want something that can punch through
walls if necessary and still produce a lethal dose of lead
poisoning...
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Old July 27th 06, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:18:10 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
In Texas you can't legally take a gun to a drinking
establishment.


Only if they derive 51% of their revenue from the sale of alcohol... I
don't tend to go to those places these days... Usually, there is a
restaurant associated with it and as such, the 51% rule applies...

There are often reasons why you need to somewhere and taking
a gun is reasonable. But if all you want to do is proclaim
your "manliness" stay home. Many DAs will look up your
blog, public statements and take you to court because you
were "looking for trouble" and that will cost you $5-10,000
if the jury finds you innocent.


That's assuming that I'm stupid enough to stay around afterwards... Or
there's not a creek nearby with a friendly gator...
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Old July 27th 06, 03:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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#4 will shoot through both sides of a car at close range,
has 41 pellets in a 3 inch 12 gauge, 25 in a 2-3/4. The 00
and 000 buck has more energy per pellet, but the smaller
size of #4 give more energy on target because of more hits.
Personally, I use $5 birdshot since I live in an apartment
and don't want to have lots of big pellets going through the
walls that I'm responsible for.

If I lived in the country, I'd have an M4 or SOCOM handy.

I've thought that T steel would be good, lots of penetration
and "non-toxic" so you could say in court, "I did not want
to give him lead poisoning." Besides easier for the surgeon
to remove, with a magnet.


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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Grumman-581" wrote
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| On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:14:08 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
| Try #4 buck, better pattern.
|
| At a typical defensive range, it doesn't matter... The
pattern is less
| than the size of a saucer... I want something that can
punch through
| walls if necessary and still produce a lethal dose of lead
| poisoning...


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Old July 27th 06, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The 51% rule applies in Kansas too.

BTW, have you read Massod Ayoob's book IN THE GRAVEST
EXTREME ?


"Grumman-581" wrote
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| On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:18:10 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
| In Texas you can't legally take a gun to a drinking
| establishment.
|
| Only if they derive 51% of their revenue from the sale of
alcohol... I
| don't tend to go to those places these days... Usually,
there is a
| restaurant associated with it and as such, the 51% rule
applies...
|
| There are often reasons why you need to somewhere and
taking
| a gun is reasonable. But if all you want to do is
proclaim
| your "manliness" stay home. Many DAs will look up your
| blog, public statements and take you to court because
you
| were "looking for trouble" and that will cost you
$5-10,000
| if the jury finds you innocent.
|
| That's assuming that I'm stupid enough to stay around
afterwards... Or
| there's not a creek nearby with a friendly gator...


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Old July 27th 06, 03:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:30:17 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
No, actually it wouldn't. We in the US don't require land ownership to
vote
so why should we grant voting rights because of land ownership?


We used to require land ownership to vote... Personally, I think it
was a mistake going away from it...


Yep, those pesky civil rights laws.


There was a step in the middle. Originally, you had to be a landowner.
Then many (most? all?) places changed the requirement to a poll tax, then
the Civil Rights Act outlawed poll taxes.



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Old July 27th 06, 04:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:48:31 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
BTW, have you read Massod Ayoob's book IN THE GRAVEST
EXTREME ?


Nope... Seems like these days, all I get to read are some sort of
technical manuals or publications... Recreational reading for me of
late is reading the manual on a new GPS...
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Old July 27th 06, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:56:46 GMT, "Ken Finney"
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There was a step in the middle. Originally, you had to be a landowner.
Then many (most? all?) places changed the requirement to a poll tax, then
the Civil Rights Act outlawed poll taxes.


If someone doesn't own property, why should they have a say in how the
country is run? Yeah, it might "disenfranchise" those inner city
warren inhabitants in the northeast, but I don't believe that would
necessarily be a *bad* thing...
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Old July 27th 06, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:56:46 GMT, "Ken Finney"
wrote:
There was a step in the middle. Originally, you had
to be a landowner. Then many (most? all?) places
changed the requirement to a poll tax, then the Civil
Rights Act outlawed poll taxes.


If someone doesn't own property, why should they have a
say in how the country is run? Yeah, it might "disenfranchise"
those inner city warren inhabitants in the northeast, but I
don't believe that would necessarily be a *bad* thing...


Property ownership doesn't convey any type of civic responsibility. If we
are going to fantasize I would prefer a voting system similar to what
Heinlien proposed in Starship Troopers. In that society anyone could vote
if they performed a period of service in the military. After their tour of
duty then they were full citizens. I would bring back the Civilian
Conservation Corp and provide that as another option for providing a period
of service to your country in lieu of the military.


 




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