Run In With Mr. Edwards

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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They are few. The people are many. We can also turn from extremely
polite
to
extremely serious in the blink of an eye. All it takes is a match to
kindle
the flame.

I do believe that a revolution is coming in America.

I do, too. Unfortunately, unless Americans, by and large, change between the
ears, it will onyl end up worse.

Remember that all those politicians in Washington, your state capital, your
county and city offices, was put in there by votes of your firends and
neighbors (certainly YOU had nothing to do with it...di you?).

If you extend all the current trend-lines out to their ultimate
conclusion,
it appears inevitable.

Yup...no longer a matter of IF, but of WHEN.


Or, of course, something bizarre could occur. It used to be called
"compromise" -- although I haven't seen it in quite a while, and I'm not
sure the problems we've got now lend themselves well to it.

Maybe it was those who were willing to compromise their liberty for a
freebie or other handout had something to do with it.


--
"He that would make his own liberty secure,
must guard even his enemy from oppression;
for if he violates this duty, he establishes
a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine

Most of us believe that what we get every four years is REALLY revolting.

Jim



-The thing that keeps a lid on revolution is the perception that change is
-possible through elections. We get to 'revolt' every four years.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:ktGXc.54565$9d6.34678@attbi_s54...
They are few. The people are many. We can also turn from extremely
polite
to
extremely serious in the blink of an eye. All it takes is a match to
kindle
the flame.

I do believe that a revolution is coming in America.


The thing that keeps a lid on revolution is the perception that change is
possible through elections. We get to 'revolt' every four years.

However such a revolution takes place, it is very unlikely to be the one
that bin Laden dreamed of.

More likely it'll look like the Weimar Republic.

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Trent,

There are thousands of similar stories that have been told, but our
media
wants to focus on things that America does wrong, like Abu Grahib. But
comparing the two is laughable.


Which is why nobody does.

Well, Ted Kennedy did. Granted, his comments about Abu Ghraib were largely
for political effect, but he directly compared and equated our management of
the prison to Saddam's.

First, as you say, the Saddam horror stories have been told extensively in
the media.

They have, but it's old news. You've got to dig to find them now. Reporting
stories about America's indiscretions is much more juicy. And damaging to
our soldiers who haven't participated in such crimes.


That's no reason not to report about Abu Graib, though. Especially since
the American standard should be different from Saddam's.

Agreed. I'm just saying that we need to keep perspective. Comparing Lindy
England and that bunch to Saddam and his henchmen is like comparing someone
who got caught speeding to Charles Manson.

-Trent

"Jack" wrote in message
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smackey wrote:


The incident you report had nothing
to do with John Edwards; it is a result
of the necessary security that
surrounds every major pres/VP candidate.

Except that it is not "necessary".

Teddy Roosevelt, Milwaukee 1912.

"Jim Weir" wrote in message
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Most of us believe that what we get every four years is REALLY revolting.

Evidently, every TWO years, too. Strange thing, though, 98+% of the time
they do it to themselves AGAIN.

"Jim Weir" wrote in message
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Most of us believe that what we get every four years is REALLY revolting.

Jim

Especially this year, when the choice appears to be between Darth Vader
("Bring me the prisoners! I want them alive!") and Gollum (tracing the image
of a heart shaped medallion: "Soooo beautiful. Soooo Preciousss.")

In article , Newps
writes:

You'll never see a stick it top the rich surcharge like that again.

Are you kidding? Kerry has already proposed one.

John

In article , "Trent Moorehead"
writes:

What a stupid tax! Any policy based on class envy should be examined
extremely closely. I am also very suspicious of very wealthy polititians who
want to penalize wealthy people by increasing their taxes.

It was worse than stupid. Not only did it not collect very much (since people
simply avoided it by purchasing abroad, or not at all) it actually ended up as
a massive net loss to governments at all levels, by tax revenues lost from all
of the businesses that supported the industry, as well as the cost of the
benefits paid to the newly unemployed workers.

This is why luxury taxes in general don't generate very much revenue. Since
they are on "luxuries", which by definition are things that people can easily
live without, it is a simple tax to avoid. This is why the government would
rather tax things that you can't easily do without, such as energy,
transportation, or communications. (Remember Al Gore's BTU tax?)

There was a great study some time back, about the dangers of "envy" and
"revenge". It made the case that people are actually willing to suffer a net
loss, if they actually believe that somebody else that they don't like (like
"the rich") is getting socked worse that they are. This is a very dangerous
phenomenon in a supposed "democracy".

John

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Jim Weir" wrote in message
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Most of us believe that what we get every four years is REALLY
revolting.

Jim

Especially this year, when the choice appears to be between Darth Vader
("Bring me the prisoners! I want them alive!") and Gollum (tracing the
image
of a heart shaped medallion: "Soooo beautiful. Soooo Preciousss.")

I thought the choice was more on the order of Beavis and Butt Head.