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Not a very good argument. Z-Hills has had continuous skydiving
operations there since the mid-60's. During it's heyday some considered it "the" premier "drop-zone" in the world. Also, the jump center is a business and the time of year around Easter has historically been one of it's busiest seasons. We skydivers like to get along with pilots. Can't jump without them. :-) (just my humble opinion!) Yeah, And I lived in the same town almost my whole life, but I have enough sense to stay away from the madness on the weekend when they have the St Patricks day drunkfest downtown.... Sure, they skydive there every weekend....and sure they have been doing it forever....and sure, they even have the RIGHT to be doing so... But still a little prudence on their part one time outa the whole year is only gonna help THEM.... Skydivers vs airplanes is just like pedestrians vs cars....the skydiver or pedestrian theorectically has the right of way but they virtually always LOOSE in any "conflict"..... I sure as heck wouldnt be skydiving in an area where the air traffic is 100 to 1000 times its normal level and a fair percentage of the pilots probably dont know how to deal with skydivers, and even the ones that do might not do so properly in all the hustle, bustle, and confusion.... Betting your life that someone else will do the right thing when you dont have to doesnt seem to wise to me..... take care Blll |
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In article , BllFs6 wrote:
Skydivers vs airplanes is just like pedestrians vs cars....the skydiver or pedestrian theorectically has the right of way but they virtually always LOOSE in any "conflict"..... In many mid-airs between skydivers and aircraft, surprisingly often the aircraft comes off much worse (crashes with the loss of all on board) whilst the skydiver breaks a bone. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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"BllFs6" wrote in message ... Skydivers vs airplanes is just like pedestrians vs cars....the skydiver or pedestrian theorectically has the right of way but they virtually always LOOSE in any "conflict"..... Actually, it's the other way round. Unlike the pedestrian vs the car, it's the airplane that has the right-of-way over the skydiver. I'm not sure I can agree with your other point either. I seem to recall a few skydiver/airplane collisions that knocked the airplane out of the sky while the injured skydiver returned via parachute. |
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Actually, it's the other way round. Unlike the pedestrian vs the car, it's
the airplane that has the right-of-way over the skydiver. I'm not sure I can agree with your other point either. I seem to recall a few skydiver/airplane collisions that knocked the airplane out of the sky while the injured skydiver returned via parachute. Few doesnt equate to most does it? but in anycase I sure wouldnt want to risk brown underwear or serious injury anymore than neccessary because someone ELSE is too stupid to do the right thing.... And it sure seems to me that during SnF that you'll have ALOT more crazies buzzing around south florida than you normally do...but maybe not.... take care Blll |
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"BllFs6" wrote in message ... Few doesnt equate to most does it? No, few does not equate to most. But while I can recall a few skydiver/airplane collisions that knocked the airplane out of the sky while the injured skydiver returned via parachute, I can't recall any that killed the skydiver and the airplane landed safely. Would you agree that few is more than none? |
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Would you agree that few is
more than none? okay Ill even give you that...if thats the case.... but I still wouldnt want to be the first....or even more importantly from a pragmatic aspect .....worrying about being the first....kinda takes the fun out it ya know... and still more...if I lived as the skydiver and the airplane folks died I'd feel bad even if it was totally their fault.... take care Blll |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net...
wrote in message om... Not a very good argument. Z-Hills has had continuous skydiving operations there since the mid-60's. During it's heyday some considered it "the" premier "drop-zone" in the world. Also, the jump center is a business and the time of year around Easter has historically been one of it's busiest seasons. We skydivers like to get along with pilots. Can't jump without them. :-) (just my humble opinion!) What argument did you assume I was making? Sorry, I just assumed (perhaps mistakenly), by following the thread, that you were making some sort of case for shutting down a business for a week during one of it's busiest times so a bunch of guys could have a club meeting 16 miles away. I'll try to read the thread more carefully and try to put it into context. I know that the DZ at Zephyrhills uses up more than 2 whole cubic miles of sky but maybe if everyone pays attention there won't be any problems. By the looks of the weather around here (Lakeland) the last couple of days, there may not be anything to worry about anyway. Blue Ones, TP. (Disclaimer: I have no professional connection to the DZ -- just a concerned consumer. Also, I have been an advocate of SF since it's inception and have not missed a single year.) |
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"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
... When I was down there they were making three trips an hour with three twin turboprops hauling 20 jumpers each and one run an hour with a DC-3 hauling 40 jumpers. That could easily run a 100 in the air at one time and 220 per hour. They do this from dawn till dusk as long as the weather is good enough to jump. Zephyrhills was one of the stops on our qualifying cross country. Winter Haven - Ocala - Zephyrhills - Winter Haven. Not-quite PPLs mixing it with the jumpers! They do Zephyrhills mineral water from one of those water cooler things at the FBO. You have to fit in. To top it off the odds of finding a place to stay, or spend the night are next to nil that close to Lakeland. Maybe, maybe not. The motel where I stay mostly in Winter Haven would not always be full during S'n'F. And that's only a short drive away down highway 92. http://www.usa-lodging.net/motels/fl...interHaven.htm Paul |
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Other alternatives to Lakeland are Winter Haven, Bartow, Plant
City and Lake Wales, all pretty close. 5-15 miles. (ok, Lake Wales is 21.9, just looked it up on Airnav) There are quite a few others around the area too. Around Tampa you have Peter O'Knight, Vandenburg, around Orlando you have Orlando Exec, Kissimmee, Sanford, (ignoring Tampa and Orlando Internationals, though Tampa and the Raytheon FBO there are very friendly). Coming in from the north you have DeLand and Leesburg or even Ocala (all a bit far out). Carry on a bit to the south and you have Sebring, Wauchula, Arcadia and Avon Park. You're spoilt for choice round that area. I haven't listed the small strips or airparks either. Lake Wales also has jumpers. Paul |
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