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Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal wrote:
My last trip to Brunswick was January 1995 for a week. DANGED cold! snip You guys should get medals for surviving those winters. I remember the time I was relaxing in Norfolk in 65 degree heat, and got the call to shoot up to Brunswick so we could Link 11 with a ship at Bath Iron Works. Milk run. Full stop included, so we could get some lobsters for HomeLant. Check the weather...20 degrees and blowing snow. Ouch! Good thing I was the plane commander, so the nugget could preflight for the way back. |
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"Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal" wrote
My last trip to Brunswick was January 1995 for a week. DANGED cold! Jeeze...I spent three years ('59-'62) there in VP-21 (P-2V). Aviation Greens would have been comfortable even in June! My last winter there ('61-'62), we had 21 straight days when the temperature never rose to zero at any time. It would drop to minus 25-30 at night. For enduring the Brunswick climate, we were rewarded with deployments to Iceland and Newfoundland, both warmer than NHZ. Bob Moore VP-21, FAETULANT, VP-46 PanAm (retired) |
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Joe- Some of the Air Force officers I work with have told me that
the large number of unifornms required of a Naval Officer was one of the factors that led them to join the Air Force. BRBR Even the ones that had been in the USAF...hard to believe that somebody would want to put up with the USAF cuz of uniforms... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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vincent p. norris wrote:
We had nothing like that when I was in. We had ankle-high "field shoes," which we called "boondockers," that were made of inside-out (suede) leather that was very light brown when new. I can't recall ever hearing them called "boots." They were nice in a cold drafty airplane in winter; we could tuck the legs of the flight suit into them. vince norris That doesn't make sense, because somehow, the first sentence of the second paragraph got lost in the shuffle. It should read: Some of us (pilots) wore half-Wellingtons, which we did call "boots." They were nice in a cold drafty airplane in winter; we could tuck the legs of the flight suit into them. vince norris Vince: I flew crew on transports in 1958-1959 for the Navy and we all wore "half-Wellingtons". They were bought at the Navy Exchange, were made by Frye, and were called "Jet Boots." Not an official uniform item but a whole lot better in unpressurized prop transports than the official low quarter shoes. Shore Patrol just loved to catch us going ashore at the bases we landed at with those boots on and would usually write us up. Once the write up got back to the squadron the skipper would send them an acknowledgement and then tear the citation up. Sort of unofficial approval to wear the boots. But, hey, we weren't allowed to wear jeans ashore back then either. You had to wear "trousers with a crease on the front of the leg" or the Marines at the gate wouldn't let you out. Never saw an officer or enlisted going off base in a flight suit, just wasn't allowed. You had to wear the uniform of the day to get out. This was at Pax River, MD. Flight suits, flight jackets and boots went in your flight locker at the hangar. George |
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"George Shirley" wrote in message .. . Vince: I flew crew on transports in 1958-1959 for the Navy and we all wore "half-Wellingtons". They were bought at the Navy Exchange, were made by Frye, and were called "Jet Boots." snipped George George, I continued to wear 'Jet Boots' after I retired and needing replacements I went to the local Frye dealer and ordered them and the order went unfulfilled because the pattern had been discontinued. My dealer gave me the number of the factory remainders store and I bought the last two pairs of the black ones in my size. After years of resoleing they finally wore out. I found the Justin 'Ropers' model an adequate substitute although the tops are much higher. I still think they went well with the uniform. Tex Houston |
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Dano,
You care correct. Jet guy. Made one stop at NAS Buunswick in 85 in a test 14B. Summer but still cool. JD "dano" wrote in message ... Obviously, you haven't been around NAS Brunswick There are quite a few folks up here who wear them; I would be among them if I had the extra cash... Dano, AWC "Jake Donovan" wrote in message news:dahnb.1208$Re.840@lakeread06... I haven't seen anyone wearing Aviation Greens since the mid 80's. They are still in the Uniform Regs though. (As someone stated earlier, we have enough uniforms to drag around with us.) JD "Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 10/27/03 3:34 PM, in article , "Justin Broderick" wrote: (Rich) wrote in message . com... During the war Fleet Admiral EJ King designed a grey uniform that he proposed to be all purpose, eliminating khaki and the service dress blues (which he felt, reportedly, were too much like the Royal Navy). Never a popular uniform and generally only worn in King's presence or in East Coast commands where he was likely to appear, it barely survived his tenure and was no longer authorized after 1948. Working gray was supposed to replace working khaki, but not service dress blue. After early '43 blues could be "dress," which was the basic pre-war SD blues (A, B or C), or "service" which could have stripes only halfway round the sleeves and could be worn with the "service" combination cap (black chinstrap instead of gold and no scambled eggs) or blue garrison cap. Service blues could also be worn with the gray shirt and collar insignia, another of King's ideas that didn't really catch on. Gray short-sleeved shirts and shorts were also supposed to replace tropical khaki, but I don't know if anyone ever actually wore it. Grays were considered something of an abomination in the PTO. For a brief time in the 1980's aviation greens were not authorized and the use of brown shoes with khakis was likewise done away with, but in recent years greens have made a comeback and are authorized to be worn with brown shoes. Did Lehman bring back the aviation greens? --Justin They never went away. It's just that most folks choose not to buy them, and since their a working uniform, no aviation skipper I know of has ever required their wear. --Woody |
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You care correct. Jet guy. Made one stop at NAS Buunswick in 85 in a test 14B. Summer but still cool. It has long been known by the residents of Maine that they have two seasons, wintah and the 4th of July. Leanne - Who still loves to visit friends and family there. |
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Tex Houston wrote:
"George Shirley" wrote in message .. . Vince: I flew crew on transports in 1958-1959 for the Navy and we all wore "half-Wellingtons". They were bought at the Navy Exchange, were made by Frye, and were called "Jet Boots." snipped George George, I continued to wear 'Jet Boots' after I retired and needing replacements I went to the local Frye dealer and ordered them and the order went unfulfilled because the pattern had been discontinued. My dealer gave me the number of the factory remainders store and I bought the last two pairs of the black ones in my size. After years of resoleing they finally wore out. I found the Justin 'Ropers' model an adequate substitute although the tops are much higher. I still think they went well with the uniform. Tex Houston I did too, but the Armed Forces Police in DC sure didn't. And, when I went to sea in late '59 I had to send them home. Wore mine until they wore out and then went to just plain shoes. Had a duplicate pair made in Thailand in 1981 that I still wear occasionally. Don't wear them that much since they look funny with shorts and a tee shirt. The shoemaker knew what I wanted when I said "Jet Boots". Evidentally he made a lot of them during SEA for the zoomies on I&I. Oh yeah, I no longer own a suit or a tie and only one pair of "dress" shoes to wear with slacks and a sports shirt. BSEG George George |
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