Sold out by IFR

I was upset about the same thing. Last year I joined for $24 and this year
they sent me renewal notice for $40!

So I crossed off the $40 on the renewal notice, wrote in $24 with a short
note that if they charged me the same rate I subscribed at, I would renew.

Sure enough, they sent me a bill for only $24, and I kept receiving the
magazine (though i hesitate to call it that.. more of a newsletter, I think)

-Jonathan

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much
better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not
to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all
pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa
and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation
that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2

"JFee" wrote in message
news:RLdTb.206424$na.338827@attbi_s04...
I was upset about the same thing. Last year I joined for $24 and this
year
they sent me renewal notice for $40!

So I crossed off the $40 on the renewal notice, wrote in $24 with a short
note that if they charged me the same rate I subscribed at, I would
renew.

Sure enough, they sent me a bill for only $24, and I kept receiving the
magazine (though i hesitate to call it that.. more of a newsletter, I
think)

The difference between me and you is that I could not be bothered to play
that game. So I let my subscription slide years ago. So now they get nothing
and I am spared of the bull****.

"Haywood Jablome" wrote in message
news:8ceTb.204377$xy6.1052049@attbi_s02...

"JFee" wrote in message
news:RLdTb.206424$na.338827@attbi_s04...
I was upset about the same thing. Last year I joined for $24 and this
year
they sent me renewal notice for $40!

So I crossed off the $40 on the renewal notice, wrote in $24 with a
short
note that if they charged me the same rate I subscribed at, I would
renew.

Sure enough, they sent me a bill for only $24, and I kept receiving the
magazine (though i hesitate to call it that.. more of a newsletter, I
think)

The difference between me and you is that I could not be bothered to play
that game. So I let my subscription slide years ago. So now they get
nothing
and I am spared of the bull****.

In the "old days", companies used to "nickel and dime", you to death. Today,
it's $50 and $100 you to death.

Not a month goes by I don't find someone trying to slip and extra $10, $20,
$50...past us on a billing statement. Of course, the "error" is never in MY
favor. :~(

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message news:JVgTb.81

The difference between me and you is that I could not be bothered to
play
that game. So I let my subscription slide years ago. So now they get
nothing
and I am spared of the bull****.

In the "old days", companies used to "nickel and dime", you to death.
Today,
it's $50 and $100 you to death.

Not a month goes by I don't find someone trying to slip and extra $10,
$20,
$50...past us on a billing statement. Of course, the "error" is never in
MY
favor. :~(

I'm on a screw you diet.
The rules are simple:

1. If the price is fair, I will pay it. You do not waste my time with
negotiations.

2. If there is a problem with your product, I give you one chance to fix it.
If you cannot fix it satisfactorily and fast the first time, I will return
it for a refund.

3. If I have to wait more than 10 minutes maximum to talk to your tech
support on the phone then I will take my business elsewhere.

4. I do not stand and wait in any queue for more than 4 minutes. After which
time I leave the goods exactly where they are and walk out of the store
(losers on welfare have an excuse to wait in line)

5. If you have me between a rock and a hard place - tardy contractors are an
example - I will harrass you by telephone at your home and/or business at
least 4 times a day until you make good.

Try it. It works.

Sounds similar to my policy(ies). Some companies lost a good customer,
and some have really impressed me.


"Haywood Jablome" wrote in message
news:k6hTb.207931$na.340391@attbi_s04...
"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message news:JVgTb.81

The difference between me and you is that I could not be bothered to
play
that game. So I let my subscription slide years ago. So now they get
nothing
and I am spared of the bull****.

In the "old days", companies used to "nickel and dime", you to death.
Today,
it's $50 and $100 you to death.

Not a month goes by I don't find someone trying to slip and extra $10,
$20,
$50...past us on a billing statement. Of course, the "error" is never in
MY
favor. :~(

I'm on a screw you diet.
The rules are simple:

1. If the price is fair, I will pay it. You do not waste my time with
negotiations.

2. If there is a problem with your product, I give you one chance to fix
it.
If you cannot fix it satisfactorily and fast the first time, I will return
it for a refund.

3. If I have to wait more than 10 minutes maximum to talk to your tech
support on the phone then I will take my business elsewhere.

4. I do not stand and wait in any queue for more than 4 minutes. After
which
time I leave the goods exactly where they are and walk out of the store
(losers on welfare have an excuse to wait in line)

5. If you have me between a rock and a hard place - tardy contractors are
an
example - I will harrass you by telephone at your home and/or business at
least 4 times a day until you make good.

Try it. It works.

In the "old days", companies used to "nickel and dime", you to death.
Today, it's $50 and $100 you to death.

Boy, ain't that the truth. I was signing a full-price contract on an
expensive (to me) house - really pushing my comfort level, and right when I
was about to put pen to paper, my real estate agent shoved a pathetic $180
"buyer's agent fee" under my nose.
Although the amount was in the noise level, the gall of the thing damn near
killed the whole deal. .

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:58:25 GMT, "JFee"
wrote:

I was upset about the same thing. Last year I joined for $24 and this year
they sent me renewal notice for $40!

So I crossed off the $40 on the renewal notice, wrote in $24 with a short
note that if they charged me the same rate I subscribed at, I would renew.

Sure enough, they sent me a bill for only $24, and I kept receiving the
magazine (though i hesitate to call it that.. more of a newsletter, I think)

That's funny! I decided to see if they improved a while back and
subscribed. True to form, they started sending me renewal notices
before I received my first issue. After the fourth notice, I told
them to cram it.


"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
nk.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much
better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not
to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all
pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa
and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation
that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2

I had a similar problem with Flying Magazine. My wife got me a subscription
over the web. After it ran out, they started calling us on the phone to
try to get us to renew. We told them over and over to put our number on
their do not call list, threatened them, whatever, but the calls kept coming
in. I sent a letter to Flying Magazine and got a letter of apology, but
they claimed they couldn't do much about it because it was a separate
marketing company or whatever. Needless to say, I stopped the subscription.

I really liked IFR magazine originally. Seems like they had some good info
that filled in the cracks other magazines left. I still go back and re-read
some of the old issues. But after a few years, it seems to be getting
somewhat redundant. I was always dismayed at how much it cost. They need a
few more advertisers to bring the cost down.

.... Aaron

"Abafon Goula" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:58:25 GMT, "JFee"
wrote:

I was upset about the same thing. Last year I joined for $24 and this
year
they sent me renewal notice for $40!

So I crossed off the $40 on the renewal notice, wrote in $24 with a short
note that if they charged me the same rate I subscribed at, I would
renew.

Sure enough, they sent me a bill for only $24, and I kept receiving the
magazine (though i hesitate to call it that.. more of a newsletter, I
think)

That's funny! I decided to see if they improved a while back and
subscribed. True to form, they started sending me renewal notices
before I received my first issue. After the fourth notice, I told
them to cram it.


"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
nk.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much
better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this,
my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a
solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name
and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will
never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them
not
to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the
third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all
pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that
Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in
Iowa
and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation
that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2

"JFee" wrote in message
news:RLdTb.206424$na.338827@attbi_s04...
I was upset about the same thing. Last year I joined for $24 and this
year
they sent me renewal notice for $40!

So I crossed off the $40 on the renewal notice, wrote in $24 with a short
note that if they charged me the same rate I subscribed at, I would
renew.

Sure enough, they sent me a bill for only $24, and I kept receiving the
magazine (though i hesitate to call it that.. more of a newsletter, I
think)

-Jonathan

Another of my pet peeves is when a business extends different prices to
different customers.

"Every man deserves a square deal" Theodore Roosevelt

Mike
MU-2

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...

Another of my pet peeves is when a business extends different prices to
different customers.

It's called volume discount.

"Every man deserves a square deal" Theodore Roosevelt

Speaking of government costs out of control, there's the guy who started
much of it (the American Empire).