CBS "News" strikes AGAIN

Around here, the
going rate is around 50K for substitutes and over 70K to start for
regulars.

Teachers here have it made. Same with the cops. The suburbs of New York
are
great deals for those two union members.
www.Rosspilot.com

According to http://www.nycenet.edu/offices/dhr/payroll/ssct.aspx, the base
starting pay for NYC teachers is $39K. They don't get up to $70K until
they've been there for 20 years..


I am aware of that. I said the NYC *suburbs* . . . Suffolk, Nassau,
Westchester, Rockland, Bergen, Fairfield, some others . . . NOT New York City.
www.Rosspilot.com

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:43:26 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:

Well, teachers haven't made that little in a LLLOOONNNGGG time! Around here, the
going rate is around 50K for substitutes and over 70K to start for regulars. By
comparison, starting pay for a software developer with an MS is about 50K.

Is that 70K real dollars or annualized based on 52.5 for nine months?

Don

Gary Drescher wrote:

According to http://www.nycenet.edu/offices/dhr/payroll/ssct.aspx, the base
starting pay for NYC teachers is $39K. They don't get up to $70K until
they've been there for 20 years..

Maybe. I'm in New Jersey.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Don Tuite wrote:

Is that 70K real dollars or annualized based on 52.5 for nine months?

That's $70,000 per year.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

Hey listen... Compared to CBS News, my little hyperbolic illustration was
totally within limits!

Besides, even if they make $50K a year, that still pales in comparison to
$100k per episode or per game.


"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in
:



Judah wrote:

That's what happens when teachers make minimum wage, and celebrities
make $100,000 an episode...

Well, teachers haven't made that little in a LLLOOONNNGGG time! Around
here, the going rate is around 50K for substitutes and over 70K to
start for regulars. By comparison, starting pay for a software
developer with an MS is about 50K.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually
said is "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:19:54 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:



Don Tuite wrote:

Is that 70K real dollars or annualized based on 52.5 for nine months?

That's $70,000 per year.

Hummmmm... That's interesting....

Don
(Who's read too many pro-forma financial predictions.)

"Judah" wrote in message
...
Hey listen... Compared to CBS News, my little hyperbolic illustration was
totally within limits!

Besides, even if they make $50K a year, that still pales in comparison to
$100k per episode or per game.

Jealous?

"Rosspilot" wrote in message
...
Around here, the
going rate is around 50K for substitutes and over 70K to start for
regulars.

Teachers here have it made. Same with the cops. The suburbs of New
York
are
great deals for those two union members.
www.Rosspilot.com

According to http://www.nycenet.edu/offices/dhr/payroll/ssct.aspx, the
base
starting pay for NYC teachers is $39K. They don't get up to $70K until
they've been there for 20 years..


I am aware of that. I said the NYC *suburbs* . . . Suffolk, Nassau,
Westchester, Rockland, Bergen, Fairfield, some others . . . NOT New York
City.
www.Rosspilot.com

Yup, I wasn't contradicting you or George--I just wanted to cite an
interesting nearby contrast.

--Gary

Howyd!

In article ,
Tom Sixkiller wrote:

"Judah" wrote in message
.. .
"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
:


"Jordan" wrote in message
...

If we have to have celebrity endorsement, then our nation is too brain
dead to endure and is finished.

That's what happens when teachers make minimum wage, and celebrities make
$100,000 an episode...

Teachers hardly make minimun wage. Even if we paid them $100K, they don't
know _how_ to teach (besides being beholden to the unions). Further, even
those who LOVE to teach, still miss HOW the human mind learns and grasps
information in the form of concepts. That's why most all of "education" is
now BY ROTE.

Bull****. You don't even bother to slip in a weasely "most"; you simply
tar all teachers with your calumny.

I won't deny that there are a significant number of teachers whose ability
to teach is questionable, but many teachers actually give a damn about their
students, doing their best to *teach*. Oh, and "rote learning" is not so
nearly ubiquitous as you would claim.

Your tirade is so full of manure that it is laughable -- or would be if
you weren't expressing a range of opinions that are painfully common.

yours,
Michael



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Howdy!

In article ,
Tom Sixkiller wrote:

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote:
I think our liberal media is chastising the government for not
doing anything so they can chastise them again if they do.

It's got nothing to do with liberal or conservative: Fox was shrieking
as loud as the rest.

Dan, Your capacity for critical thinking and differentiation is
remarkable....when it suits your preconceived notions.

Boy isn't that the pot calling the kettle black, Mr. Teachers-are-
worthless-pieces-of-****. I suppose your opinion here is one of an
expert in the field.

yours,
Michael


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| White Wolf and the Phoenix
Bowie, MD, USA | Tablet and Inkle bands, and other stuff
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