Private air strip..... yes or no???

Cub Driver wrote:

It's even worse than that, from the neighbor's point of view. The
neighbor can't build a structure or allow a tree to grow to a height
that obstructs the takeoff.

As far as I can tell from the "Applicability" sections of the FARs, they only
apply to public use airports. Local laws might cover such a case, of course.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

It depends on the county, talk to the county planner. Many places it
depends on how far you are from the closest land that is zoned residential.


Mike
MU-2


.."just an average Farlang..." wrote in
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Can anyone tell me what criteria, rules, regulations a person needs to
be
allowed to construct a private runway on his or her property. I know
there
are many factors that are not presently known in this scenario but I
can
try to input as much as I know.

My neighbor owns land that is 2600 feet wide. The elevation is about
3000
feet and the hottest temperature is 91 degrees in the summer. The land
is
located in Idaho. The prevailing winds position the optimal take off
direction to be directly over my house about 1500 feet from the
property
line. I LOVE airplanes! I worked for Boeing (Lazy B) for the last
fifteen
years. I worked at Cessna in Witchita before that. I stop to watch
planes
take off and land. I LOVE PLANES!!! But what I don't love is buying 500
acres to finally get some peace and quiet and then having some loud
plane
buzz my house at will. The person wanting to put in the runway has
money
to build a 3 floor nice house so I expect they will want to be
socialites
and invite all their friends to fly in for a barbacue on the weekend.

I talked to planning and zoning and they don't even know what
prospective
planes will be flown there i.e. ultralites or larger planes that
require
longer runways. I would like to think it is being fair for me to
expect no
planes flying over my land below 500 feet whether taking off, landing
or
pattern flying. I bought my land and paid for the use of each and every
acre. If by putting in a runway on the edge of my property that means
they
are helping themselves to a sort of "easement" flying a hundred feet
or so
over my land that doesn't seem at all fair. I may wish to build a barn,
corral animals (which might go crazy) penned up with planes buzzing
over
them.

Can I get some ideas on what is realistic?

I don't even know what a common length of runway is but a friend of
mine
told me using generic table calculations that a fully loaded small
plane
on a hot day could very well need a long take off and after lift
off ....
how long a distance til that plane gets to minimal required elevation?


Yesterday I took a flying lesson with a chief piot and he told me a
small plane can lift off after about a thousand feet of runway and
then the maximum climb would be about 500 feet per minute. He thought
for a plane to stay the necessaary elevation over my property the
pilot is required a total of no less than 4000 feet. The runway will
be a dirt strip which also requires more distance.

any comments would be appreciated

An Metet wrote:

Where in Idaho are you located? Your neighbor sounds like someone I might
like to meet and visit.

Hey, there's an idea! Sounds like an ideal place for the next rec.aviation
flyin! I'm not sure I can shoehorn my Maule into 2,600', though. Sounds a
bit tight. :-)

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

I don't have answers for the technical and/or zoning portions of your
questions because I don't have sufficient information... I gather the
runway is in the planning stage so it is possible that anticipation is worse
than reality.. Discussion with the neighbor/pilot is the best method to
arrive at a solution that all can live with..

Consider that if his property border is 1500 feet from your buildings and
given that he will likely be airborne well before reaching the boundary of
his property, it is likely that the departing airplanes can turn enough to
avoid flying directly over your head...

As a person who also owns acreage and lives a quarter mile off the road, I
appreciate not hearing civilization too loudly, also... However, it is
rarely possible in this modern world to avoid noise... The farmers who work
the adjacent farms can be heard for well over a mile when their turbocharged
tractors, combines, etc., are working... The diesel pump for the half mile
long, circle irrigation system on the next section to my south can be heard
clearly at night in the summer thump thump thump all night long The
neighbor 3/4 of a mile to my southeast has music parties in the summer,
outside, and the banging drums and wailing horns are amazingly loud for the
distance...

Anyway, good luck with settling this between you and your neighbor as it is
tough living when there is animosity between neighbors...
denny

"just an average Farlang..." Thai-no-

This interested me, as once someone becomes a pilot, the first thing they
want is an airplane, the second might be their own private airstrip. For me
anyway.
I think you've got a big problem on your hands. Just from reading the posts
from the last couple days, I get the impression your 'meeting' with this guy
will have you coming in all friendly but ready to pounce once you hear what
you expect to hear. It'll then slide into 'too bad, I can do it if I want
and theres not much you can do about it'. Good luck.
Now I see why people live at airparks instead.
I can see your point that his 'dream' shouldnt destroy yours, but it's not
as if theres going to be touch and go's going on all day long. It'll be
occasional, and not last too long. You got a Harley? You do anything
noisy? If you put your home that close to the possibility of being
disturbed and had all those acres to work with, well, that's just dumb,
especially if you want peace and quiet.
How do you know he's "got all this money" etc, you've got all that land, he
probably thinks the same of you, may have no sympathy. That's no excuse to
intentionally make your life a living hell either though.
I think you made your mind up before coming here, regardless of your "any
comments would be appreciated" line.
And "just an average white" from Idaho calling someone a redneck is sure
calling the kettle black. Got a cult goin on up there?
I'm JOKING, take a breath.

Chris