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Old February 19th 04, 06:42 AM
Jack Allison
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*And* attend the r.a.p gathering at Jay and Mary's campsite! Extra credit
if you stay at their hotel for the pool
party/BBQ/suck-down-free-beer-that-Jay-buys event (still working on that one
myself...some year Jay, the weather is going to push us far enough South).

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Old February 19th 04, 02:34 PM
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"Dave S" wrote in message
ink.net...
At the risk of sounding unpatriotic.. I agree with some of what you were
criticizing. America has actively earned the hatred of many abroad by
virtue of our foriegn policy and active meddling in the affairs of other
countries.


Like the UN does every day? (And the rest of the world intervenes through
them)

How about our Foreign aid? Do they mind that meddling? How about the World
Bank?

We have supported former dictators on several occasions who
later we moved to depose when they no longer served our needs.


Like the USSR during WW2?

We have a
reputation for being arrogant, impolite, demanding and hypocritical.


That wounds like the world in general...that same world that never seems to
mind our bailing them out several times in the past 100 years.




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Old February 19th 04, 04:15 PM
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You are absolutely right, but I can still hope - even without voting for
them...
denny
"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Dennis O'Connor" wrote:

I am deeply suspicious of any man like Kerry who incites class warfare,

envy
politics, punitive taxation of the most productive, character

assassination,
etc., but if he were to come to OSH I would cheerfully show him around

and
try to convert him into an airplane nut - not that I have a snowball's
chance in hell of getting near him in the first place...



Well, good luck. My point is that the politicians show up for photo ops
and good PR every chance they get, and often they have little to no
interest in YOUR interests when they do show up. If Kerry or Bush or
anyone else decides to show up at OSH, it in no way indicates that they
are actually an advocate of GA. Politicians are necessarily
self-serving above all else. Caution when dancing with the devil.


JKG



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Old February 19th 04, 04:28 PM
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"Tom Sixkiller" writes:

How about our Foreign aid? Do they mind that meddling?


Well, historically an amazing amount of our foreign aid has gone to
support repressive dictators. People in countries where they had to
live through that probably *do* remember, and dislike, our foreign
aid. More broadly, it often comes with strings attached, and it often
makes no sense. People could easily notice and find that
objectionable.

How about the World Bank?


Rather out of favor in a lot of places. And widely viewed as an agent
of the US, though we don't formally control it.
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Old February 19th 04, 11:18 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:


But I've known a fair number of pilots who quit flying. I don't know how,
or why.


I have given up a number of activities over the years, for various
reasons. One is ham radio. I used to be pretty active on the HF bands
and gathered about 180 countries in about three years of activity.
After getting married I sold the HF radio but stayed on 2 meters for a
while. Still have a 2 meter radio now but only use it to monitor the
aviation band.

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Old February 20th 04, 04:53 AM
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I have given up a number of activities over the years, for various
reasons. One is ham radio.


Apples and oranges. As fascinating as ham radio can be, it ain't flying.
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Old February 20th 04, 01:58 PM
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Long, long, ago, in a galaxy far, far away, for one entire winter I used to
chat with Paul every tuesday night, the navigator on board a NORAD bomber,
loitering somewhere to the north of Michigan near the arctic pole... He, of
course, could not tell me where he was I knew enough not to ask, but by
switching antennas I knew the direction... He was one bored puppy stuck on
an 18 hour ride, several times a week...
denny

"Jay Honeck" wrote Apples and oranges. As
fascinating as ham radio can be, it ain't flying.


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Old February 20th 04, 02:39 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I know we kept recon early warning flights airborne for much of the Cold
War, but I didn't know we kept bombers in the air.


We kept armed B-52s up at all times through at least 1980. There's an H-bomb
at the bottom of the ocean off the coast of Spain and another one in the Gulf
near Alabama. I don't remember why they were jettisoned. Prior to the buffs,
we kept B-36s up and had F-100s carrying nukes out of Turkish bases.

George Patterson
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you look forward to the trip.
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Old February 20th 04, 03:41 PM
John Gaquin
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message

....There's an H-bomb
at the bottom of the ocean off the coast of Spain and another one in the

Gulf
near Alabama.


I thought they found that one off Spain. Or, did they jettison two and find
only one?

JG


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Old February 20th 04, 03:43 PM
John Gaquin
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

I know we kept recon early warning flights airborne for much of the Cold
War, but I didn't know we kept bombers in the air.

What year would this have been?


There were armed Buffs orbiting in Intl airspace close to Soviet 24/7 for
about 25-30 years.


 




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