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![]() nooneimportant wrote: Develop the HU2 idea some... And try to locate a photo of the "mushroom brigade" logo. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. |
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"BTIZ" wrote in message news:DkA_b.6218$aZ3.1012@fed1read04...
if you are going to do the F-4... do both AF and Marine versions.. also the F-4G "Wild Weasel".. now there is a theme real close to the "in the Buff" idea.. What, you got something against the Navy? :-) John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) |
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John Galban wrote:
"BTIZ" wrote in message news:DkA_b.6218$aZ3.1012@fed1read04... if you are going to do the F-4... do both AF and Marine versions.. also the F-4G "Wild Weasel".. now there is a theme real close to the "in the Buff" idea.. What, you got something against the Navy? :-) He included the Marines! |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:20:10 GMT, Bob wrote:
How about a wall done up as a large photograph of the young naked girl running down the road covered in napalm burns snip a ... Thank you, Senator Kerry. |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02... Dick Forrey, the man who started the anti-Target brouhaha, has since admitted his mistake: I made a mistake on this one, and I've learned a hard lesson — that's for sure. What started out as a message for the members in our organization has turned into a hate-type thing. I never wanted to start any national boycott. I just wish it would all stop. Some people have used my words and perpetuated lies. It's sad that some of these people would use veterans as a way to push their own political views. I've sent out a retraction, and no one pays any attention. This question sprang from a conversation I had with a guest who suggested that we "do" a suite for all Viet Nam vets. Up till now, we've only honored historic aircraft (Spirit of St. Louis; Fokker Triplane; Pan Am Clipper; Wright Flyer; Constellation) and World War II stuff (Memphis Belle; P-51 Mustang). Now, however, we're about to open the Blackbird Suite -- the 1960s super spyplane -- so we're branching out a bit. Thus, the guest's suggestion. In his opinion, the Viet Nam boys deserve a suite "of their own," and I certainly agree. So, we're tossing around ideas. In my opinion, the aircraft that best symbolizes that war was the Huey helicopter. Unfortunately, the Huey is about as romantic as a storage locker. The second most ubiquitous aircraft -- the one we always saw on the 6 o'clock news -- was the B-52 Stratofortress. Again, this is not an aircraft we can build a theme suite around, in Mary's opinion. (I rather like the idea of a "BUFF Suite" myself... ;-) I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" The plane that hauled the weight "out back" was the Caribou. Rugged, short field capable and didn't mind getting the wheels dirty. Second choice for the field soldier's limousine would have to be the Chinook. Pepperoni |
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Jay
One of the unsung hero's of the war in VN was the C-130. They hauled 'trash' day and night to support the Army from the big airfields to the laderite (clay) strips used by the FAC's, choppers, etc. I remember well one time i had just landed on a 7-800 foot laderite strip and turned off end of R/W in my 0-1. I looked back and here was a C-130 on short final dragging it in. He chopped power (Or maybe reversed in air) and smacked on the end of th R/W and immediately went to full reverse on the props. This sucked up a cloud of red dust and I lost the plane in the cloud. All I could see was his wing tips swaying back and forth sticking our of the cloud as he applied full brakes and reverse. Was still going like a bat out of hell and I goosed the engine pretty hard and taxied away from the end of the R/W where I thought he would run off and burn. As the 130 approached the end of the R/W it slowed down and finally made a high speed 90 degree turn off the R/W. He then taxied to the side of the field opposite the center of R/W and opened his ramp and four rubber bladders rolled out the back on the ground like big wide inner tubes that could be hooked together and pulled to where they were needed. The 130 never stopped while they were rolling out the back and went on to the end of the R/W and lined right on the end. Ran the engines up to full power and used about 2/3 of that little R/W that I used about 3/4 in the 0-1 and flew back to get more supplies. I never pass the chance to pat those guys on the back as no one else will. I saw what they did and give them full credit for a job well done. If we got any 130 crews on the thread they should speak up and tell some of their stories. Big John If you talk to the 'grunts', besides CAS they will all tell you the 130 hauled everything they needed and flew day and night, sun and rain. I really took my hats off to those jocks. Big John On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:18:05 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote: What is the aircraft that is most closely associated with the Viet Nam war? |
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I'm sorry. I seem to have somehow combined two posts (to two different
newsgroups) while trimming to post here. I have no idea how that happened. What a mess. **************** "Pepperoni" wrote in message ... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02... The plane that hauled the weight "out back" was the Caribou. Rugged, short field capable and didn't mind getting the wheels dirty. Second choice for the field soldier's limousine would have to be the Chinook. Pepperoni |
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I'm sorry. I seem to have somehow combined two posts (to two different
newsgroups) while trimming to post here. I have no idea how that happened. What a mess. Thanks for the clarification... Whew -- I thought I was losing it there for a minute! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:_4d%b.406270$xy6.2316403@attbi_s02... I'm sorry. I seem to have somehow combined two posts (to two different newsgroups) while trimming to post here. I have no idea how that happened. What a mess. Thanks for the clarification... Whew -- I thought I was losing it there for a minute! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" It's embarrasing. I must have hit "Paste" instead of "cut" while trying to trim. |
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Jay,
How about one that every pilot would know and thank you for...the Jolly Green? It may or may not mean much to Army helo pilots (I don't know) but the USAF boys would know it and it's meaning right away. OK, it's ugly as hell and even less romantic than a Huey, but it's the one that has mostly positive elements to it's association. Shawn "Gerry Caron" wrote in message m... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:2Xu_b.383818$xy6.2081664@attbi_s02... I guess that leaves the F-4 Phantom? Phantoms Phorever!!! AKA Rhino or Double Ugly. A truly great aircraft. Flown by AF, Navy, and Marines. Lots of history, stories, etc. to build a theme around. Gerry |
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