Whew!

I haven't read the various articles by the multitude of companies
that worked on the film, but I'd be most interested in both
the makeup and special effects (visual effects is the CGI, special
effects are the physical gags) to learn if they were using
chocolate syrup or karo syrup for the blood or the relatively
newer concoction that apparently looks fantastic but tastes
horrible, so the actors despise having the blood capsules in the
mouth.

My problem with going to a film with gore is that I'm more
interested in the technology making it happen, so there's
almost no impact for me.

Now, doesn't that just ruin the gore for you?

My problem with going to a film with gore is that I'm more
interested in the technology making it happen, so there's
almost no impact for me.

I'm usually the same way.

Not this time.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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"Your Aviation Destination"

Ironically, what we got from Mel Gibson's film is this: I can now almost
guarantee that neither child will grow up practicing *that* particular
religion.

Jay, you can't possibly make sure a prediction. Several of my
daughters grade-school chums grew up to be intensely religious, one of
them after a detour through the Naval Academy and Pensacola.

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Jay, you can't possibly make sure a prediction. Several of my
daughters grade-school chums grew up to be intensely religious, one of
them after a detour through the Naval Academy and Pensacola.

Well, that's true. At some point, they will reach their own spiritual
crossroads.

I just don't think this flick does anything to portray Christianity in a
positive light -- and I doubt that was Mel Gibson's intended outcome.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

......(after taking the kids to see
"The Passion of the Christ" this evening.

What on earth would have induced you to take kids to that movie? Have you
been unaware of the controversy?

Oddly, the controversy seems to have centered on whether the movie is
anti-Semitic, not its violence. Since the only people who consider the movie
to be anti-Semitic are a bunch of intransigent hotheads who think any
mention of the crucifixion of Jesus is anti-Semitic, many people felt that
it was reasonable to ignore such extremist views.

Seriously, the only way that the ADL would not have been offended is if Mel
Gibson had depicted Christ as dying of appendicitis despite the heroic
efforts of his rabbinical doctors.

Seriously, the only way that the ADL would not have been offended is if
Mel
Gibson had depicted Christ as dying of appendicitis despite the heroic
efforts of his rabbinical doctors.

ROTFL!

Actually, CJ, the movie is VERY anti-Semitic. Of course, how could it NOT
be?

The main antagonist of Jesus is a very, very bad Rabbi dude. His ability to
stir up the mob -- depicted as barbarians and idiots -- was ironically
reminiscent of Nazi newsreel footage.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Since the only people who consider the movie
to be anti-Semitic are a bunch of intransigent hotheads

The Wall Street Journal reviewer did take time out from his
description of the torture to point out that the Romans were falsely
depicted as benign, procedure-oriented, dispassionate rulers who were
more or less forced into the crucifixion by rabid, Jesus-hating Jews.
I envision the American army in Iraq, trying to mediate between Sunni
and Shi'a. The WSJ reviewer (okay, okay, his name ends in "stern")
thought that this was an a-historical view of Pilate and the Romans
generally.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
(after taking the kids to see "The Passion of the Christ"
this evening. Tip of the Day: Don't waste your money

From the start I've felt there was something unsavory about Gibson and
his movie. Yesterday I found this:

Actor-director Mel Gibson talks about his new film, "The
Passion of the Christ," during a nationwide satellite
interview seen Sunday, Feb. 8, 2004, at North Ridge
United Methodist Church in Millbrook, Ala.

February 12, 2004

Mel Gibson has come under fire for being hard on Jews in
his film The Passion of the Christ, but apparently, he
feels that Protestants are also doomed to damnation. In
fact, it looks as if Gibson, a conservative Catholic,
believes that his Episcopalian wife could be going to hell.

Gibson, interviewed by the Herald Sun in Australia, was
asked if Protestants are denied eternal salvation.
"There is no salvation for those outside the (Catholic)
church," Gibson replied. "I believe it."

He elaborated: "Put it this way. My wife is a saint.
She's a much better person than I am. Honestly. She's,
like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she
believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that
stuff. And it's just not fair if she doesn't make it;
she's better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from
the chair. I go with it."

That's creepy.
--
Dan
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

He elaborated: "Put it this way. My wife is a saint.
She's a much better person than I am. Honestly. She's,
like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she
believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that
stuff. And it's just not fair if she doesn't make it;
she's better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from
the chair. I go with it."

That's creepy.

No. Mel Gibson does not feel like arguing with God. However, he has been
misinformed as to what God's opinion is. :-)

"C J Campbell" wrote:
That's creepy.

No. Mel Gibson does not feel like arguing with God. However,
he has been misinformed as to what God's opinion is. :-)

You could say the same of Osama Bin Laden. Zealots are creepy,
regardless.

I don't know what God's opinion is, and I deeply mistrust those who
claim they do.
--
Dan
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